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To: steve harris who wrote (150646)	11/30/2001 11:42:10 PM
From: milo_morai	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Sun is still our vendor of choice Steve. We haven't bought a Intel based server in over 2 years. I've got our Corporate considering Athlon MP's for our next several server purchases next year. M.

To: steve harris who wrote (150646)	12/1/2001 12:13:21 AM
From: Tony Viola	Respond to of 186894

Sun with Intel or Microsoft inside, sure. By the way, if you see Sun starting to get competitive again in price/performance it's by cutting price. They have to because they've been losing their ass to IBM from the north and Dell/Compaq/HP/Intel from the south. Sun, projected to continue to lose money like your other fave, AMD.

To: steve harris who wrote (150646)	12/1/2001 2:25:07 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Steve, No Microsoft either? Gosh, Sun must be reliable! When it comes to Oracle, it is the best to be suspicious of any of their claims. They don't let anyone benchmark and publish any score, unless everything is Oracle approved, and the test machine is a few million $$$. A test of Oracle in an environment where vast majority of unit sales goes to (of databases) - single or dual processor x86 servers - is not allowed or strongly discouraged by Oracle. So basically, nobody can verify anything Oracle says. Doing so would mean you are not in compliance with the licensing agreement. You can read all about it in a great database shootout in PC magazine, that did not happen - because Oracle did not allow PC magazine to test Oracle software and publish results. Joe