SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Neocon who wrote (8065)12/1/2001 9:45:13 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 93284
 
I believe the idea underlying Tribes comment is that formal freedom means little if we are too afraid to use it, and that it would be idiotic to let fear of oppression by the government push us into a different sort of oppression.

I'm sure the word "it" in "to use it" was perfectly clear to you. What is "it"?

I have a friend who grew up in those Japanese internment camps. He was American born, no trials, no due process, zip. Is that "fear of oppression" or is it "oppression"?

I do not believe that the United States has commented on tribunals under exigent circumstances and military jurisdiction.

I don't see that exigent applies to the judicial system. There has been some discussion on the use of types of interrogation techniques under exigent circumstances, but I don't see the word applying in a judicial system.

Posner's comments have to do with the difference between bringing criminals to justice and waging war. It has nothing to do with the treatment of citizens, although it is true that resident aliens might be detained. However, even then it is not an arbitrary detention, as in the case of Japanese- Americans, but investigatory and, if warranted, to be followed a trial.

I'm fine with your first sentence. Your second sentence, is something that you're reading into his words. He says "foreign-based" which could be referring to all non-citizens, but if you have a US citizen operating with a foreign-based threat...his words are not explicitly clear on that point.

Your third sentence, with the insertion of Japanese-Americans, completely confuses me. I doubt if you meant what that sentence really said.

jttmab