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To: TigerPaw who wrote (1264)	12/3/2001 2:14:21 AM
From: Mephisto	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15516

I wonder why they won't release the recording transcripts from the Pennsylvania flight on 911. TP, do you think it could be for legal reasons that pertain to bin Laden. Bin Laden has said that he won't be captured alive, but if he is captured alive the government might want to keep the transcripts private in case OBL goes to court.. It's just a thought. Fascist John is paranoid in my opinion so that is another reason why he might not want to release the transcripts. JMOP, of course.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (1264)	12/3/2001 1:06:20 PM
From: Karen Lawrence	Respond to of 15516

RE: flight 93 Hero's widow, family ask to hear flight tapeBy Kiley Russell CONTRA COSTA TIMES SAN RAMON -- The widow of a man who died fighting hijackers aboard United Flight 93 on Sept. 11 wants to hear her husband's voice one last time. Deena Burnett of San Ramon and her father in-law are asking the Department of Justice to let them hear the cockpit voice recording from the final moments of the doomed flight as it plunged into an open field in rural Pennsylvania. "I lie awake at night wondering what he felt, what he said and what he did and I hope that this recording will help answer at least one of those questions," Deena Burnett said. Thomas Burnett Jr.'s family wants the hear the unedited version of the recording in the hopes that somehow it will help them deal with the grief of losing a husband and son. "I want to know anything I can about that day and everything that happened on that airplane. I don't know if we'll learn much, but I want to hear (the recording)," said Thomas Burnett Sr. from his home in Bloomington, Minn. The FBI has yet to release the recording to family members because, unlike in accidental plane crashes, the voice data recording is considered criminal evidence. "When we're conducting a criminal investigation, it is generally not the policy of the FBI to release evidence to the public," spokesman Bill Carter said. For her part, Deena Burnett said she understands that the investigation must run much of its course out of the public eye and that the FBI "has actually been very kind." She's also somewhat bewildered by the news coverage of her request. "I do believe it's been misleading only because I'm not diligently pursuing this," she said. "I'm certainly wise enough to know that it won't happen anytime soon." "We do want to hear it and we want to wait until its safe it be released," she said. Carter said Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Alamo, sent a letter to the FBI on the Burnett's behalf asking that the families be allowed to hear the tapes, but no reply has been sent. Thomas Burnett Sr. said he'll ask the U.S. senators from his home state to make a similar request. Thomas Burnett Jr., 38, died while apparently trying to wrest control of the Boeing 757 from hijackers attempting to crash the plane into a national landmark, likely in Washington D.C. The plane instead nose-dived into a Pennsylvania coal field, killing all 45 people on board. FBI representatives said that the actions of several passengers, including Burnett, may have prevented the plane from being used as a weapon, much as three other passenger planes were used to attack the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. Burnett and another passenger, Jeremy Glick, called their wives in the moments before they tried to overpower the hijackers, to say good-bye and tell them of their plans. "Everything is a guess in my mind after he hung up that phone," Deena Burnett said. "Perhaps by hearing what is on that recording some of my thoughts will be confirmed, and once I receive that confirmation, I can stop thinking about it and move forward." Mental health professionals say many families of victims of violent crime or other traumas need as much information as possible about what happened to their loved ones in order to cope with their own grief and stress -- even if what they learn is painful to hear. "It may be another traumatic event (to hear the recording), but you can't avoid it if it's going to be traumatic. You just have to deal with it," said Dr. Leonard Duhl, professor of psychiatry at UC San Francisco. "But still, there's a lot of stuff that needs to be worked out once you find these things out," Duhl said.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (1264)	12/3/2001 1:14:13 PM
From: Karen Lawrence	Respond to of 15516

Many unexplained plane crashes of late including... /Swiss Plane Crash Kills 24, Nine Survivors BIRCHWIL, Switzerland (Reuters) - Twenty-four people died when a Swiss plane crashed near Zurich, police said on Sunday, in a new blow to an airline industry reeling in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States. Nine survived out of the 33 people aboard the 97-seat Crossair plane from Berlin, which crashed late Saturday while trying to land at Zurich airport. CHERRY POINT AIR STATION, N.C. (AP) - A Marine Corps EA-6B Prowler electronic warfare jet crashed into the Atlantic on Wednesday after all four crew members ejected safely. The cause of the crash was under investigation. The plane went down 26 miles off the coast, said Maj. James Bell, a spokesman for Cherry Point Air Station. The crew members were all rescued by two helicopters from the base, he said. They were taken to Carteret Regional Medical Center for checkups but none had serious injuries. No decision had been made on whether the aircraft will be recovered, Bell said. ``One factor we will have to consider is the Prowler has sensitive electronic equipment on it.'' Prowlers are assigned to fly with fighters and bombers to jam enemy radar. Bell said the squadron to which the jet was assigned had recently returned from duty in Turkey, where it patrolled no-fly zones over Iraq. Tuesday November 20 10:03 AM ET Russia Plane Crash Kills 27 People MOSCOW (AP) - A passenger airliner crashed Monday night northeast of Moscow, killing all 27 people aboard, the Ministry of Emergency Situations said Tuesday. The Ilyushin-18 airplane, which had been chartered by a company called Irasaero, crashed Monday night near the town of Kalyazin, 90 miles northeast of Moscow. The cause of the crash was unknown. SEATTLE (Reuters) - A U.S. Navy (news - web sites) radar jamming airplane crashed in rural Washington state on Thursday and all three crew members were found alive with relatively minor injuries, the Coast Guard said. Coast Guard officials said two of the crewmen were taken back to their base, the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station, and the third was hospitalized with a possible broken leg. No other information was available on what caused the crash, under gray skies with intermittent rain, or the crew's mission, Coast Guard spokesman Robert Lanier told Reuters. The EA-6B ``Prowler'' crashed near Forks, Washington, shortly after sending a distress call to the Seattle Coast Guard station at 1:35 p.m. (4:35 p.m. EST). The Coast Guard sent rescue crews in a land vehicle and two helicopters and were joined by another helicopter from Whidbey Island.