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To: Joe NYC who wrote (150807)	12/3/2001 3:31:48 PM
From: fingolfen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

What is this program supposed to test? Oh, didn't you read??? It was the ultimate program to show that AMD's Athlon is many times... no hundreds... no thou... no millions of times better than the P4. Kap was going to show the world how simple arrays could befoul and befuddle that evil capitalist pig Intel's branch predictor and bring down the P4 house of cards in one simple blow... why it's so simple a child could do it. Kap was going to save us all from the Sith that is Intel and bring us back to the light side of the force...

To: Joe NYC who wrote (150807)	12/3/2001 3:32:44 PM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

CNBC just had a round table of interviews on the subject of the terrorist bombings in Israel this weekend, and one guy was defending them. Someone else also called the Israelis missile shower near Arafat's headquarters much too soon and overreacting. "They should have spent a month deliberating like the US did". I think the month we spent was building the coalition, something the Israelis decided they didn't need to do in this case. When is this country going to stop kowtowing to the over-liberal bullsh*tters? I thought 9/11 might have been a wakeup call. I hope no Intel folks or family were affected in the Haifa bombing (or the other one). Tony

To: Joe NYC who wrote (150807)	12/3/2001 3:38:14 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Joe, Re: "What is this program supposed to test?" It's a routine that mucks around with locality such that every instruction requires a read from memory, rather than the L1 instruction cache, or in the case of the Pentium 4, the trace cache. Intentionally architecting the code to do this is supposed to imply how weak the Pentium 4 front end is when the trace cache has nearly a 100% miss rate. The AMDroids are eating up this concept with a spoon - they love the fact that Pentium 4 has a weakness they can exploit. They'll put the benchmarks up on big banners and wave them around both forums and claim how poor the performance of the Pentium 4 really is - and how Intel should be condemned for calling their chip 2GHz. Personally, I don't see the usefulness in an application that is so far removed from real life that it had to be pain-stakingly engineered to do what it was designed to do. wbmw

To: Joe NYC who wrote (150807)	12/3/2001 3:50:10 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Joe, <What is this program supposed to test?> It's supposed to test the theory that most of the Pentium 4 runs at half its advertised frequency. In reality, the test proves nothing. But that's not going to stop KalKan and his merry AMDroids from spreading more B.S. Tenchusatsu