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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (40248)12/3/2001 7:55:39 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
"Slavery damages the slave, but it destroys the slave owner. I find the whole idea of condoning slavery to be very disgusting, whether by individual slave owners or state run."

Of course this is just me challenging conventional wisdom. Not totally sold (pun) on this. Let's look at what you just said however. The candidate is guilty of a crime that we labeled heinous. Is this a person you would ever want as a neighbor to any innocent person you care about? Let alone the hundreds of them that are regularly released from prisons. We know that these people are often released and at growing numbers back into communities simply because the system doesn't have the resources to hold them all for life. They often repeat their crimes and add more to the list. We choose to set our innocent friends up as vicitms of this by not choosing another alternative. Of course we try to make sure it is not in our own neighborhoods but the risk is growing.

The real lifers are settled into a new society funded by us. We house, cloth, feed, medicate, educate, entertain, etc at a cost of 30K to 50K per year; and at a cost to our elders and other at risk citizens who have lived fairly law abiding and decent lives all their lives. We have large numbers of people suffering due to a lack of resources while these perps have all the modern conveniences.

The cost to us is that the decent members of society often do not believe they are safe or that justice is dealt equitably to perp and victim alike. Criminals perpetrate heinous crimes that cannot be made right and are given care for the rest of their lives or worse are released back into society to do.... Well, do you really think heinous criminals just go back into society and lead lives that are not impacted by their past crimes. The statistics paint a different picture.

But you are worried about them being damaged? We certainly wouldn't want the perpetrators of mass murder, rape, etc to suffer, feel bad, or be put out being forced to work on societal improvements...sarcasm. The slave owner (the state) is damaged when the Justice system seems bankrupt as it does in the case of heinous crimes and criminals; not when perpetrators of heinous crimes are forced into servitude.

Like I said before, I like other alternatives better than slavery but since nothing is really working why not give this some thought too.