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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (40255)	12/3/2001 8:17:19 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I understand you but I doubt you understand my point. Let's paint the alternative. A thousand men rob, rape, murder and molest our innocent neighbors. We feed, cloth, educate, entertain, and house these men until such a time as you authorize us to send them back to perpetrate these same crimes against another 1000 of our innocent neighbors. You just did. That is our current reality and you just voted not to change it. You choose this instead of the alternative I presented that was to force them to serve the state for the rest of their lives. I used the word slavery when I could have used many other much more palatable terms because I wanted to stir something up. It is an alarm word. What we should be alarmed about is reality. If you didn't have the horrible tapes playing in your head that portray slavery as a historical injustice perpetrated against innocent people; I bet you could have digested the notion. Shocked? If not I can keep trying.

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (40255)	12/3/2001 8:23:55 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Keep in mind that this slavery concept arose in two sort of simultaneous contexts. First was cloning modified humans to be slaves. Now you might not like designing and then cloning people with the specific intent of making them sufficiently docile and obedient to be slaves, but once you have done that, I'm not sure it has any negative impact on the slaveowner to own them. They would be looked at like vacuum cleaners -- nobody looks down on my family because we have a vacuum cleaner. The second context was that of those convicted of heinous crimes, where the choice of enslaving them (basically, bringing back road gangs?) as an alternative to simply tossing them in a cell and forgetting about them has a certain appeal. And third, keep in mind that a number of tongues were firmly planted in cheeks during this whole discussion.

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (40255)	12/3/2001 8:26:35 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

On a given day in 1994 there were approximately 234,000 offenders convicted of rape or sexual assault under the care, custody, or control of corrections agencies; nearly 60% of these sex offenders are under conditional supervision in the community.

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (40255)	12/3/2001 8:28:50 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

The proportion of offenders returning to Federal prison within 3 years increased from 11.4% of those released during 1986 to 18.6% of those released during 1994.