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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (40333)	12/4/2001 11:56:35 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Thanks. I don't know if you know, but I was raised a Conservative Jew until my parents divorced. My mother, who had converted, returned to the Catholic Church, and I was baptized when I was 12. My personal beliefs veered towards pantheism and, eventually, atheism, until college. I spent time as an adult both as a semi- observant Jew and as a Roman Catholic. I have not been a member of any religious group for many years, although I believe in God. I agree that there is more moral energy in religion than in rationalistic ethical systems. It is a fact that most Holocaust rescuers were pious Christians of various denominations. Considering the risk, one can easily see how being animated by a larger drama of good and evil, sin and redemption, grace and sacrifice might help to bolster one's resolve. If we think that it is merely a matter of hygenic social relations, as it were, why get involved, at risk to one's family? If the evil echoes through eternity, and the dead will, as it were, reproach the indifference of the living, then that is another matter entirely........

To: J. C. Dithers who wrote (40333)	12/4/2001 12:12:39 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"It is worthwhile, to say the least, to continue discussion of why current Islamic interpretations seem to spawn such negative behaviors." As cliche as it sounds, I would ask you to think about walking in another man's shoes. If heinous criminals are perpetrating crimes against you and or your family members you would look to the justice system to remedy the situation. If you see "the system" is in cohorts with the heinous villains you may begin to feel some desperation about your circumstances. You can decide to join the powerful villains and become part of the system or you may consider extreme measures such as "Give me liberty or give me death." Few people in our culture during modern times actually feel this desperate about their condition. It is the status quo in other parts of the world. I would contend that it is the unjust circumstances that call for desperate measures not the religion. I am not refering to the terrorist bombings btw. The terrorists are not representative and have violated us all.