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To: DavesM who wrote (12807)	12/5/2001 1:04:12 AM
From: LPS5	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

That's true, but what does it have to do with my opinion?

To: DavesM who wrote (12807)	12/5/2001 2:31:29 AM
From: marcos	Respond to of 281500

This too could be classed as religion, the 'pro patria' taken far enough ... which it certainly was in 1914 Europe and 1930s Germany ... Manifest Destiny time for the US, 'white man's burden' time for the brits, every few decades for centuries for the Balkans ... the latter has a theocratic veneer to it but it's more than that You don't need the god-construct to make a religion - political ideologies can get pretty religious, as did radical communism and radical anti-communism in the last century .... well they sort of had their own gods and holy books, didn't they On the age of the israeli colonel - only ex-military of theirs i recall meeting was a man who had been a major, he was in a tank regiment and he was also a war correspondent working directly for the military, i don't know by which position he had the rank of major, but he would have been under thirty at the time .... he was in the six-day war, saw lots of action ... filed his last dispatches a few days later, at a place on the coast, there was a ship there, he got on it, got to Italy i think, then made his way on zero money to Montréal, met a young lady straightaway and she fed him, they live now on the west coast of BC and do art and computers and stuff .... due to the fact that he didn't tell anybody he was leaving, didn't even pick up his medals and pay etc, he is classed as a deserter, his way of expressing it is that he just had enough .... he can make you a PC clone in nothing flat for cheap and it will work forever ... there's a similar story around here, a two-hitches in Viet Nam marine, he just walked away when they landed him in California and came north, didn't wait for the ceremonies so he's a deserter ... also married to an artist ... clearly neither of these men is religious now, if they ever were