hawk- here is another one of mine
Stating my position 10-8-01
1. We have more than 5,000 innocent Americans dead from these heinous attacks.
2. Killing bin laden is the right thing to do.
3. Killing and suppressing all terrorist groups forever into the future is a must.
4. Policy on terrorism must not flinch, ever. From now until the end of mankind.
5. The crazies will keep on coming. From now until the end of mankind.
6. We are faced with a religious based war.
7. Anybody that thinks there can be lasting peace in the middle east is a fool.
8. There can never be peace in the middle east because of warring religions. There hasn’t been peace there for thousands of years. It is not about getting civilized, or advances in mankind. Wars are part of mankind, and religion exacerbates it. We can only do the best we can to minimize the conflicts.
9. What the Muslim extremists are creating right now is a hatred of the USA, based on hatred of Jews. The new Muslim extremist ideology is that Americans and Jews are synonymous.
10. The hatred of Americans and American capitalism is a product of the Muslim hatred of Jews, not as a stand alone new hatred. This new hatred was conjured up by the extremist Muslims. The hatred of the USA can be traced directly to our long support of the Israeli state. Demonstrations against America in Muslim countries since the Carter administration prove that a certain set of Muslims do in fact hate the USA. In fact, these are not even the extremist Muslims that inflicted the attacks. Are we to wait for these angry ones to get more angry?
11. The USA stands for good capitalist people, and freedom of religion. Jews, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, atheists and others can live in peace in the USA.
12. The USA should not put its own people at risk by standing up for one religion.
13. The Jews in Israel are good and civilized people. They are worthy allies that deserve to have good lives.
14. The Muslim extremists are not good or civilized people.
15. The Muslim crazies will not stop their attack on the USA if Israel/middle east/USA policy remains the same. They may not stop even if we change policy, but we must try. I am not suggesting that we abandon our Israel policy. The consequences of no policy change will certainly be more dead Americans than a change in policy.
16. We cannot abandon our Israel policy.
17. The USA has to evaluate and make changes in our middle east/Israeli policy. If the Muslim crazies continue to create fear and kill Americans, we must change the policy. We need to consider many options, and we cannot ignore some because they are drastic.
18. We cannot ignore the fact that the many mainstream Muslims do not think that Israel is legally in control of the land that it claims.
19. Forever, there will be crazed extremist Muslims that will kill Americans if our unconditional support of Israel continues. This religion based support has brought blood to American soil. Blood and death and destruction that we have never seen, not even at Pearl Harbor.
20. We in America have to prioritize American lives over Israeli lives. (if my country cannot prioritize the life of my son and his sons and daughters over the life of an Israeli, we have lost track of the duties of our country…..that is to protect its own citizens!!) ********
21. This country does not stand for one religion.
22. This country allows freedom of religion.
23. We as a country cannot penalize all who live here, by our unconditional support of Israel, without considering making a Palestinian state. Israel is a country that is defined by one thing…..religion. The costs that our unconditional one sided support of Israel will inevitably burden the American people and economy with is immense. We have to consider a balance to that policy.
24. See #’s 3, 4, 5, 6 above. In addition, we must acknowledge the fact that the Muslims are pissed that the world gave the Jews a homeland in the Holy Land, but they do not have a homeland state in the Holy Land.
25. Appeasement of the Muslims by providing a legal homeland is not bowing to terrorists. It is balancing what the world gave to the Jews already. It is smart based on reality. The blood is now ours and it is time to act. It is fair if we are to recognize the Jewish religion essentially as a nationality. We do not need to negotiate with Arafat, we can find a solution without him.
26. As we proceed into the future, the Muslim religion will continue to spawn crazies and extremists like Bin Laden. A Muslim state in the Holy Land of Palestine would leave that religion with much less reason to believe they must kill Jews, Americans, Brits and so on.
27. Jews in the USA could agree essentially with these thoughts, if they do not, a religious bias is clear. Which is their primary allegiance? Is it as an American, or as a Jew? As American citizens, they would enjoy the benefits of this long term policy as all Americans of all religions would. Or, do Jews not want Muslims to have a legal claim to part of Palestine? If Jews resent a Palestinian state, this is exactly my point. We have a religious based war that is bringing death, terror and blood to our American soil. We cannot put the rest of us at risk to support their religious belief!
28. Only fools think that the world can be safe from terrorism in the long term. The attacks on 9-11-01 were attacks on civilization. They were a statement that humans are inherently evil. Human evil spirit using current and future technology and political climate, along with human religion, is and will continue to be a deadly combination.
29. The evil in the world will always exist. It will be more and more uncontrollable. (see # 5 above)
30. If one thinks that changing our middle east policy is shortsighted, you do not understand the power of religious crazies.
31. I sit here tonight and the TV is talking of biological attacks, and how we may not be prepared. Why should we, as good Americans, have to have these worries? Because we support Israel at any cost, without an offsetting state of Palestine? Without thinking what it might do to all of us Americans? We must not take a one sided religious position!! The Muslims of this new century are demanding that we balance our policy. We have 5,500 dead mothers, fathers, sons and daughters as proof of this demand. You may say it is the extremists that did this, and you are correct. At what point does an anti American Muslim, demonstrating in his middle eastern or Asian country become a peaceful Muslim? He will not, with our current policy. In fact, he may be spawned into the extremist movement if we are not careful. There are tens of thousand of these aggravated Muslims.
32. Saying we have 5,500 dead mothers, fathers, sons and daughters may sound callous. However, it is the brutal reality, and we cannot get their lives back. Our policies need to be shaped to minimize any more American deaths. It is the duty of the USA to protect its own citizens FIRST, not prioritizing a religious group that are not even U.S. citizens. These policies include using our military as we are now, and in the future where it might be against world opinion. There is no higher duty of a nation than to protect its own citizens.
33. I think to myself…….my 2 year old son’s quality of life is in danger because my country supports a group of people that pray the same way, to the same God, but another group hates it that way. They want it a different way. So much so, that they will kill peaceful innocent human beings for it. So, my son and his descendants will suffer from this pathetic religious war.
Prince Al Waleed of Saudi Arabia comes to New York to give $10 million. Mayor Guilliani makes a gutsy call not to take the money because of a comment by the prince implies that we need to reconsider our policy in the middle east. Mayor could have called it either way. I have to respect him for the side he took, it was a tough call. He is a good man and leader. It was the wrong call.
In fact, Al Waleed implied that our current policy was the cause of the attacks. That was a no-no according to the mayor. Let me get this straight. Here is a man, one of the richest in the world, a good Muslim man of power and respect in the Muslim world. He makes a comment that is right on the money from the peaceful Muslim world perspective and we basically tell him to get lost. This is a perspective that we need to understand to solve this problem. President Bush says that most Muslims are peaceful good people. If that is the case, why can’t we listen to one of the most powerful people that they have? Al Waleed was even educated in the USA, so he probably has a good handle on the problem.
What? Can’t we say that our policy was the cause of these attacks? It is a theory, supported by free speech. The mayor and many or most Americans don’t have to like the theory, but what if this peaceful gracious Muslim man can see it from a better perspective? Can’t we listen to a Muslim?
Al Waleed flew to New York to present the $10 million that was rejected. Then, as irony would have it, he is interviewed twice that same day by who else but David Faber and later Larry King. Both are fine men that share Judaism as a religion. Both men are great interviewers. King has more softball questions, Faber will go right at the person. Well, when Al Waleed was starting to elaborate on his statement that went with the money, that our middle east policy was the cause of these attacks, he was cut off. The fact is, these Americans, Faber and King, did not want to hear it. I sensed Al Waleed actually got upset that he was unable to finish.
A man of power that the USA does listen to is former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Al Waleed, I am certain, has much more power than Netanyahu in this situation, but the Jew gets the respect and the Muslim doesn’t. Could it be that the Muslim world has felt this for the last three decades? Netanyahu was actually invited to speak to the US House of Representatives’Government Reform Committee on September 20, 2001. Credit to him, he is an expert on terrorism. Did a peaceful Muslim leader get asked to speak?
There is no doubt that the Jews of Israel are not the terrorists. There is no doubt, according to our policy in the USA, that most Muslims are peaceful. Well then it is about time that we sit down with the leaders of the peaceful Muslim world from the middle east and find out what we can do to slow or prevent the creation of more extremist Muslims! Al Waleed would be a good man to start with, because he knows the West so well. There are others. Let’s listen, and not ask for the Israeli opinion before we act. Let’s do what is right for all people concerned. The Bush administration is on track, and will probably listen to the peaceful Muslims. Finally.
Could it be that the Muslims are angry about our one sided position on Israel? Not being able to get through to us? In a speech before the US congress in late September 2001, Netanyahu says “the soldiers of militant Islam do not hate the West because of Israel, they hate Israel because of the West.” He goes further to say that “for Bin Laden’s world, Israel is merely a sideshow.” Is that why he says “my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror for many decades.” Are the terrorists just practicing on Israel? Come on. Very few Jews, if any, can come to admit that we could get rid of a great deal of hatred of the US by the now disgruntled, yet peaceful Muslim world if we changed our middle east policy. Our unconditional support of Israel has caused irreversible hate of the US. Calming of the hatred of the US by Muslims that are not yet extremist will certainly benefit the US and the free world in the long run.
What Netanyahu wants here is to drag us into this cesspool of fighting that they as Jews have faced for centuries. He admits that that militant Islamists think that Israel “must be wiped off the face of the earth.” The US makes a big target, and now that we feel their pain, we have to stand along side them.
“Iran, Libya, and Syria call the USA and Israel racist countries that abuse human rights” Oh, I wonder if it has anything to do with these countries defining Judaism as a race and Muslims as a race? They consider the preferential treatment of Jews and suppression of Muslims (by the USA siding with Israel on all disputes) as a racist act. Clearly, this is a point to be made. The USA has given Jews in Israel preferential treatment.
I am not on the side of Muslims. I am not on the side of Jews. I am on the side of Americans. I am on the side of what is right. I could care less what your religion is. It is time for the world to stand up and defeat terrorism. It is time to look at the root causes of it. It is time to plan ahead to prevent future religious based terrorism inflicted on the US. It is time to plan how we will minimize American deaths. It is time for the world to recognize the perceived imbalance in the middle east and try to fix it. US policy has to place priority on American lives.
Comments on profiling.
In an effort to prevent more attacks on the USA, we have to maximize our efforts to prevent attacks from these evildoers. It is known that there are cells of terror in the USA. To neutralize these bad guys, let me use an analogy.
If I go hunting for pheasants, I pretty much ignore the songbirds, raptors and sparrows (these being basically good Americans of all walks of life) …..basically I ignore all birds but the pheasants. My quarry is pheasants. However, we happen to be looking for male pheasants (Arab background men). So, to have success on the hunt, we look where the male pheasants exist, and hunt them there (in the case of the Arab crazies we are looking for, we don’t go to them, but screen out potential bad ones when they enter airports, buy chemicals, rent trucks etc). The pheasant hunt we are on also dictates that we cannot hunt the native pheasants even if they are male. The hunted pheasants act differently than the native pheasants, so we can tell them apart, usually easily. These pheasants that we hunt are specific in the way they act within the overall pheasant society. Sometimes we are ready to shoot, but determine that we are mistaken, and that the pheasant is of the native (good) kind. So we do not take the bird.
As we continue hunting, we bag some bad pheasants. The native pheasants are pleased, because food and shelter is assured. The bad pheasants are getting scared and are on the run, because they are getting shot at. Some of the hunted pheasants even flee to a place far away. We continue to hunt for bad pheasants, but they are getting harder to find. Over time, the native population of pheasants thrives and almost all pheasants that exist are of the good kind.
Now, one other thing. There is a rare case of a bird that we are also licensed to shoot. That is a crow (Tim McVeigh type) that acts similar to the bad pheasants we hunt. It doesn’t look like either of the pheasant types, but is a bird we do not want around. We shoot the crow as well.
The clear and concise message of this analogy is that when we hunt evildoers, we are looking for a person, usually male, likely of Arab ties or background, and we can tie that person to other bad guys that we have confirmed to be bad. I would say that when hunting pheasants, I profile my quarry as a bird/pheasant/male/non-native. Law enforcement does the same with criminals, always has, always will. Profiling criminals is not inappropriate; it is how it is done. Human/Arab/male/connected to bad of similar. That is the profile. Get used to it. |
