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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (44725)12/5/2001 11:26:24 PM
From: elpolvo  Respond to of 65232
 
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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (44725)12/7/2001 12:44:29 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232
 
Fuel Cell Technology Update - December 2001

Message 16742317



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (44725)12/7/2001 4:05:50 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 65232
 
Economy proves newly resistant to old remedies

By William Neikirk
Washington Bureau / The Chicago Tribune
Published December 7, 2001

WASHINGTON -- Despite 10 interest rate cuts by the Federal Reserve and $40 billion in tax rebates by Congress, the American economy has been slow to respond to traditional government measures to spark a recovery.

The recession that began in March still has a firm grip on the economy. Unemployment is still rising, as government figures being unveiled Friday are expected to reflect. Business is reluctant to invest after overdoing it in the 1990s. Consumer buying has picked up, but largely in response to sharp price discounting by companies, not government policy.

In today's economy, many analysts say, the old remedies of stabilization don't seem to be working as well as in the past, complicating the efforts to stimulate the economy by President Bush, Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and the 535 members of Congress.

Economists say the usual policy tools appear to have lost some of their edge as the economy has shifted, becoming more global even as a worldwide downturn is developing and threatening to make the U.S. recession deeper.

In addition, the economy's problems caused by the excesses of the longest-running boom in American history have proven hard to address with interest rate reductions and tax cuts. Not only is consumer debt high, but business has too much capacity to produce as a result of these excesses.

On top of that, the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks have dealt a major blow to consumer confidence, the very economic depressant that federal policymakers have been trying to overcome since the first of the year.

The longer the country goes without another act of terrorism, the better for confidence, analysts say, but each government alert about the threat of another attack reminds America's debt-ridden consumers of the danger.

"Once people get scared, the tools of economic policy become ineffective," said Paul Heise, economics professor at Lebanon Valley College in Annville, Pa.

The possibility of future terrorist attacks is cited as the major uncertainty in the forecasts of most economists these days.

Sooner or later, perhaps by early or mid-2002, the government's policies will begin to work, economists said. But there is greater awareness of the limitations of these policies than in the past. Some analysts fear the downturn could last all of next year.

Brian Wesbury, chief economist at Chicago-based Griffin, Kubik, Stephens & Thompson Inc., said the Fed is still powerful but has lost some of its ability to control the economy in the wake of many fundamental changes domestically and internationally.

The key problem is business overinvestment during the economic boom. This overbuilding was exacerbated by the Y2K problem at the turn of the century, but it became clear as 2000 drew to a close that American firms had too many goods and had overbuilt their productive capacity in the high-technology sector.

"The makeup of this recession is really quite different," said Conrad DeQuadros, economist for Bear Stearns in New York. "In 1990, we saw the consumer and housing sectors deteriorate in the recession. Now, this is mainly a business-led recession caused by overcapacity."

Businesses won't invest in response to lower interest rates unless there is an increased demand for their goods, said Heise. "If you invest, you invest because you think you are going to make a profit, no matter what the interest rate is."

Barry Bosworth, economist at the Brookings Institution in Washington, praised the Federal Reserve for its actions in stabilizing the economy, but he conceded that lower interest rates have their limits. "The boom was investment-driven, and now the recession is investment-driven," he said. "That is hard for monetary policy to get at."

Business cycle must run

There are no quick fixes, said Pierre Ellis, economist at Decision Economics in New York. To a large extent, he said, the business cycle may just have to run its course through the process of selling off a glut of inventories. Rehiring won't begin until these stocks are largely sold off, analysts said.

Tax cuts to induce business to invest have been proposed by both Democrats and Republicans, but just like interest rates, these work only marginally, economists said. Despite tax reductions, companies are not eager to make a lot of investment in a climate where consumer demand is uncertain, economists said.

Bosworth and other economists said the Federal Reserve has done a good job with its aggressive campaign of interest rate reductions. Without the Fed's actions, they said, the economy would be worse off and the recession might be deeper. Consumer spending would not have held up, Bosworth maintained, and the automobile companies would not have offered their zero-percent financing to move a glut of vehicles.

Personal debt grows

But Heise said the excesses of the 1990s not only caused overinvestment, but "people have spent themselves into debt thinking that the boom would go on forever. Now they have to pay down that debt." According to the Federal Reserve, consumer debt outstanding is about $1.6 trillion, compared with $1.3 trillion in 1998. Mortgage debt has jumped from $5 trillion in 1997 to $7 trillion.

Rather than the tax rebates that most Americans saved rather than spent, Heise said he favored doubling the minimum wage to stimulate the economy. "You can't sustain an economic boom without putting money in the hands of people who will spend it," he said.

James K. Galbraith, economics professor at the University of Texas, said higher debt levels reduce the effectiveness of lower interest rates to boost the economy. Consumers will be inclined to reduce their debt before stepping up spending, he said. Zero-percent financing on cars may increase car sales, he said, but "the sales will go away" once the incentives are gone.

Galbraith said he sees the recession deepening and believes that, rather than cut taxes, Congress should pass a revenue sharing program of up to $300 billion to prevent state and local governments from making major cutbacks in their programs.

Copyright © 2001, Chicago Tribune



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (44725)12/9/2001 12:41:43 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 65232
 
U.S. Scours Afghan Woods for Bin Laden

Sunday December 9 9:15 AM ET

By Sayed Salahuddin

KABUL (Reuters) - U.S. planes joined Afghan fighters in hunting for Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) in mountain woods, but the superpower said it would scour the world for him if needed.

Afghans who drove the Taliban from power during two months of U.S. bombing said bin Laden, wanted for the September 11 attacks, was personally leading about 1,000 men in the eastern region of Tora Bora, their final holdout, on Sunday.

``Osama himself has taken command of the fighting,'' Mohammad Amin, a spokesman for the anti-Taliban alliance, told Reuters.

``He, along with around 1,000 of his people, including some Taliban officials, have now dug themselves into the forests.''

``He is here for sure,'' Amin said. ``American planes have been carrying out regular and severe bombings to kill him.''

Some 2,000 anti-Taliban forces tightened the noose, saying their foes from bin Laden's al Qaeda network had been driven out of their network of mountain caves and tunnels.

CNN said al Qaeda forces were still fighting back, despite waves of bombing by B-52s and other U.S. aircraft.

U.S. officials said they assumed the Saudi-born militant and his protector, Taliban spiritual leader Mullah Mohammad Omar, were still in Afghanistan (news - web sites) but raised the specter that the search could go on for months and spread around the globe.

There was no independent confirmation that bin Laden was in Tora Bora, an area with easy escape routes to Pakistan -- whose military said it had reinforced its border with helicopter gunships and troops to make sure no one got away.

Adding to the manhunt mystery, local Afghans spoke of seeing a tall man in white robes -- a fitting description for bin Laden -- galloping across the hills on his steed.

OPEN-ENDED CHASE

U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said Omar was still believed to be in the area of Kandahar, the city the Taliban surrendered on Friday and over which rival tribal chiefs were now haggling for control.

``If you told me he turned up on a ship in the Indian Ocean tomorrow I couldn't be totally surprised,'' Wolfowitz said. ``We may still be chasing these people weeks and months from now.''

He said the United States, shaken to its core by the New York and Washington hijacked airliner attacks that killed some 3,900 people, would hunt bin Laden everywhere and warned other countries it would be a fatal mistake to harbor him.

``People say he might go to Somalia, he might go to Yemen, again there are a lot of maybes here,'' Wolfowitz, who has pressed for Iraq to be a target in the ``war on terrorism.''

North Korea (news - web sites) was convinced it was going to be next. The communist state accused Washington of planning to attack and said it would deal ``unimaginably telling blows'' to U.S. troops.

ENDING WAR

Although bin Laden is still at large, Washington has been encouraged by the swift fall of the austere Islamic movement that controlled 90 percent of Afghanistan and allowed him to train his anti-Western fighters there.


Afghan factions have agreed on a six-month interim cabinet to take power on December 22 -- and hopefully end three decades of fighting that began with Soviet invasion in 1979.

But first, prime minister-designate Hamid Karzai must pacify bickering warlords who clashed for control of Kandahar.

Calm appeared to have been restored in the southern city, the spiritual heartland of the Taliban, as competing leaders met on Sunday to try and hammer out an agreement.

On Saturday warlord Gul Agha accused Mullah Naqibullah -- his rival to whom the Taliban surrendered, with their arsenal -- of sheltering Omar, but the report could not be confirmed.

U.S. marines patrolled possible escape routes from Kandahar just in case, using ``hunter-killer'' teams and attack helicopters and holding pictures of top terror suspects.

The United States transferred command of its ground forces in Afghanistan to Kuwait, a practical decision due to time zones and distances, defense sources and officials said.

PEACEKEEPERS

When, or if, the fighting stops, foreign troops are due to help keep the peace in Afghanistan. U.N. experts were in Kabul to plan the deployment, aimed at stopping the kind of bloodbath Afghanistan has witnessed in previous changeovers of power.

Britain said on Sunday it would be ready to lead the force.

Aid for millions of Afghans suffering a three-year drought on top of war started to get through more easily at the weekend.

The World Food Program began handing out sacks of wheat in war-ravaged Kabul, and aid flowed to the north after Uzbekistan opened its Friendship Bridge border, closed for four years.

Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) secured the reopening during a regional tour that also took him to Kazakhstan.

In a setback to the Northern Alliance, a military helicopter crashed overnight killing 20 people including two commanders.

And in a blow to al Qaeda, the family Ayman al-Zawahri said in a Cairo death notice that the wife and children of bin Laden's key ally had died as martyrs, presumably in Afghanistan.

Bin Laden has been renounced by his Saudi family, but his mother said she still cared for him.

``I do not approve of his ambitions and the actions attributed to him, but I am not angry with him,'' the woman, whose name was withheld, told a Saudi newspaper.

``Like all mothers, I am satisfied and pleased with my son and pray to God to guide him and save him.''



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (44725)12/10/2001 1:42:14 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232
 
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