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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: James Calladine who wrote (8553)	12/6/2001 9:35:20 AM
From: Bill Fischofer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

Re: Revelation I would agree with the statement that we are unable to experience God without God's revelation to us. But I don't view that as a problem because God is continuously in "revelation" to us in countless ways. The hallmark of most organized religion is that they all seem to agree on two points: 1. God spoke to man in the past 2. God stopped doing this Thus the claim is that God must now be sought only in holy books or via institutions, their rituals, and their anointed officials. By safely locking God away from direct experience religion thus ensures a perpetual role for itself which is why religions are so amazingly durable. This worldview follows naturally from viewing revelation as an event. If one views revelation, like life, as a process then a different worldview will result. That is the key difference between religion and spirituality. Religions try to make a dynamic process static by capturing and codifying a snapshot of that process which occured long ago while ignoring the living process of revelation which is all around us and always with us.

To: James Calladine who wrote (8553)	12/6/2001 10:52:18 PM
From: briskit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Hey was I right in calling it "old school" or what!? Adi Da uses "archaic" to denigrate "otherness" in favor of his view! I am on the same page with him! I think otherness is a very useful concept. You mention Adam and Eve, who were tempted "to be like god". Perhaps they were tempted to be god. Original sin is a derived concept. In modern Christianity many are tempted by familiarity and similarity with god, usually to poor ends. Jesus (god, spirituality, etc.) is their buddy. They usually have some insight which is more or less their own due to that special bond. Many have t.v. shows. It is a different expression of what I take to be a similar sentiment to what you speak of, albeit a bit simplistic among the "old schoolers". I find a respectful "otherness" maintains a useful sobriety in spirituality. It certainly doesn't mean revelation has stopped. How would I hope to know anything about god if that were the case?