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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (151430)12/6/2001 8:49:47 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
The size of the Pentium 4 die being a "penalty" is a common misconception. In reality, Pentium 4 is smaller than die from other Intel micro-architectures in the past. In fact, once shrunk, the second generation Pentium 4 will be smaller than the second, third, and fourth generation P6 cores (being Klamath, Deschutes, and Katmai). Only at .18u did Intel really have a small P6 die with Coppermine.

Northwood will probably yield about the same number of die per wafer that the "mendocino" celeron die did and this is only the second generation of P4. As you point out, real die size advantage didn't happen for P3 until the 5th generation. It's amazing that the hemdroids look at the first generation and think they know everything about P4 in terms of both cost and performance. Go figure...

EP



To: wanna_bmw who wrote (151430)12/6/2001 9:44:06 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Beamer - Re: "The problem that most people have is that they tend to compare Intel's die size to AMD's, and try to draw conclusions about cost. "

Most people don't do the simple math - and realize that AMD's die yields STINK at 27% - whereas Intel's yields are 2X to 3X of that !

Paul