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To: Cooters who wrote (109361)	12/7/2001 7:39:57 PM
From: engineer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

The problem is that the innovation is limited to those that work for PCS, or are controlled by PCS. While they may be pushing to turn on data, I think they are still in the mode of "we have to controll all apps" on the network. While this is great for a corporate model (i.e. I get to keep all the profits), it is not how to build an army of developers who will grow the pie faster. Example....if you wanted to develop a wireline based app tonight, you could go down to Fry's, buy 50 modems, develop it, and market it, and the wireline carriers would have enabled you to start a business with little or no startup captial and no big marketing staff who has to satisfy the wireline minimum buy in amount to enable you, and no deposits, no negotiations. but if you wanted to develop a new app for PCS network, you have to get the same equipment and THEN ask them to allow you access to the network and allow you to market your app on their network. If your not big enough or not "killer app" enough, then your out. This in the long run will downturn the apps market development, IMHO. thanks for the differing opinion, though....

To: Cooters who wrote (109361)	12/7/2001 7:55:48 PM
From: pyslent	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

"On the disagreement side, I think PCS has done a good/great job creating data apps via their Wireless Web." I think that remains to be seen... name one useful app that PCS has developed. All they have done with their wireless web is put together a portal of WAP sites, none of which are proprietary (with the notable exception of SprintPCS account information sites). With that distinguished track record, I certainly would be leery of entrusting the future of mobile apps development to their software engineers. The walled garden model that PCS has embraced (by its refusal to deploy BREW) may be good for PCS (maintains brand differentiation, keeps profits in-house) but it won't be good for the mobile data in general. Especially if VZ drops the ball in competing with a larger, more open developer community, as Mr. Seybold seems to fear.

To: Cooters who wrote (109361)	12/8/2001 12:53:25 AM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Cooters, you are always pumping PCS. I have a Verizon business account, and my main motivation is that I make a large number of long distance calls from several PNW states throughout the year. Verizon offers a 12 state no roaming package and long distance to anywhere else in the US from that calling area. I haven't looked into any Sprint packages, but it is VZ's footprint that sold me. The issue that has me questioning my choice of SP is tempered by the fact that I want to be able to connect wirelessly, and I see that Sprint is ahead of the curve in that department. I'm torn. Could you give me a reason to switch to Sprint service. I am ready to buy new phones, and taking the above scenario into consideration, where do you think I should look? M