To: Bill Fischofer who wrote (8591 ) 12/8/2001 11:42:09 AM From: briskit Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931 I had an interesting experience talking with a man about God knowing us, and caring about us. The man was a geologist, cerebral, successful, scientific. He told me he read Einstein's Theory of Relativity every few years. (By contrast, I have never looked at it.) He was old school Presbyterian, not given to religious fancies. I heard a story that he had been healed of cataracts, which are only known to respond to surgery. I was stunned. I would think he might refuse such an experience on logical grounds alone. But I asked him about it, and he said it was true. I asked him what he made of it. For me it seems difficult to allow for a direct presence or intervention of a deity in a closed cosmological system. He answered that the amazing thing to him was that when they prayed for Ed, God not only knew who they meant, but cared enough to do something in response to the request. I was expecting, and hoping for really, something scientific, philosophical, clinical, empirical. He went right past all that. Well, for what it's worth it's the one story like that which I have some direct personal connection to and find interesting. Calvin says all wisdom is found in two things: knowledge of God and of ourselves, and that it is very difficult to know which precedes the other. It is an incremental alternating, perhaps. If you allow me to piggy back your last sentence: and the practical application is in the answer we live in response to those two questions. You sound a little existential still, speaking of terrifying freedom and living openly aware and present to life ;^). I think it very true and I appreciate the reminder. Talk about living with eyes wide shut most of the time. Goodness.