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To: chalu2 who wrote (9704)12/8/2001 5:03:37 PM
From: Machaon  Respond to of 23908
 
If I heard correctly, the first American plane that bombed the Taliban had a woman pilot. She was highlighted on Opra, on Friday.

They need to tell Omar or bin laden that, before they die! <g>



To: chalu2 who wrote (9704)12/10/2001 12:29:36 PM
From: Thomas M.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
LOL! It's fun to watch you twist and turn in the face of such obvious rejection of peace by your beloved Israel.

Tom



To: chalu2 who wrote (9704)12/14/2001 12:36:25 PM
From: Thomas M.  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908
 
Israel deliberately targets Palestinians interested in peace, and deliberately sabotaged a deal between Hamas and the PA to end suicide bombings.

villagevoice.com

Sharon: Nightmare Rubout Would Unleash Waves of Retaliation

Death Wish in the Holy Land

by Jason Vest

For those who track the ongoing Al-Aqsa Intifada, the only scenario
possibly more disconcerting than Yasir Arafat getting knocked off by the
Israelis is Ariel Sharon being assassinated by the Palestinians—an act
that would surely loose unprecedented waves of Israeli military violence
against the Palestinian Authority, likely culminating in its destruction. The
odds of such a thing happening to Sharon are, however, slim. His
personal security is tighter than ever, and while he may not have gone
far enough for some on the Israeli right, he's not in danger of being killed
by one of his own, as Yitzhak Rabin was.

But in a situation where extremists on both sides are ascendant,
politically, Sharon's days may be numbered; Benjamin Netanyahu and his
retrograde settler supporters are lurking conspicuously on Sharon's right.
Still, at this point, the difference between Sharon and Netanyahu is
essentially rhetorical. While Sharon has begun to recast his definition of
the conflict as one not against Palestinians but against select
"terrorists," his actions—especially in the wake of his cabinet's
declaration last week that the Palestinian Authority is "an entity that
supports terror"—move increasingly closer to what the far-right Likudniks
want: the annihilation of the PA.

"Arafat comes in for a fair share of criticism," says a veteran CIA Middle
East specialist, "but I'm sorry, the catch-22 they've put him in is either
going to cause a Palestinian civil war, or doom him to failure. Telling him
to get everything under control but then making it difficult, if not
impossible, for him and anyone else to move around, and declaring the
security forces charged with getting everything under control as
terrorists themselves—leaving them subject to assassination—is
hopeless.

"And while the Israelis say they've always gone after 'terrorist' targets,"
the specialist adds, "they've in fact also gone after those members of
the Palestinian leadership who have two important attributes: One, they
were interested in a two-state solution, and two, they were the kind of
people who were strong enough to be the peace party in Palestinian
leadership. Most of these guys have been killed. Frankly, I have long
suspected the Israeli strategy is to kill the moderate Palestinians as well
as militants and send this thing careening towards an endgame where
Israel has the extremist enemy it wants."

Indeed, as Rabbi Arthur Waskow of the human rights-oriented Shalom
Center in Philadelphia notes, one need only consult an exceptional recent
story in the right-of-center Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot for confirmation
of this idea. On November 25, Alex Fishman, the paper's security expert,
reported that the Israeli government was aware that the Palestinian
Authority had finally prevailed on Hamas in mid November to accept a
quiet, tenuous deal in which Hamas would refrain from any suicide
attacks within Israel's pre-1967 borders.

All bets were off, however, after the November 23 Israeli assassination of
Hamas leader Mahmud Abu Hunud—which, according to Fishman, was
exactly what Sharon's government wanted. "Whoever gave a green light
to this act of liquidation knew full well that he is thereby shattering in
one blow the gentleman's agreement between Hamas and the Palestinian
Authority," Fishman wrote. "Whoever decided upon the liquidation of Abu
Hunud knew in advance that that would be the price. The subject

was extensively discussed both by Israel's military echelon and its
political one, before it was decided to carry out the liquidation. Now, the
security bodies assume that Hamas will embark on a concerted effort to
carry out suicide bombings, and preparations are made accordingly."

Says Waskow: "Sharon is driving Palestinian society more and more to
the right, to the fanatics, which is calculated to create the results he
wants. If there's a Palestinian civil war, no matter who wins, it would
shatter the Palestinian Authority, which meets his needs. If there isn't a
war, he can point to the suicide bombings as justification for more
military action. And you can't blow up a Palestinian police station and
then say, 'Why aren't you arresting people?' You can't cut off all traffic
on the roads and say, 'Why aren't you acting like a real government?' "

Not, adds Waskow, that this all redounds on Sharon. "The Palestinians,
and Hamas especially, are profoundly and shallowly stupid, too," he says.
"I keep envisioning, imagining, wishing, that after Sharon's incursion to
the Temple Mount, what if instead of stone throwing, there had been
massive sit-downs, no stones, no weapons, but general strikes—what if
Arafat had behaved like Gandhi. If Arafat had been a profoundly great
leader, he would have led a nonviolent resistance 14 months ago. There
is so much stupidity to spare on both sides. But Israeli stupidity is
compounded by the fact that they have 10 times the power."

Harold Gould, a visiting professor at the University of Virginia and an
expert on South Asia and terrorism, says he shares Waskow's desire for a
Palestinian Gandhi, but believes the possibility is simply too far gone; the
Israeli right's obsession with applying an archaic colonialist model to the
Occupied Territories has made it all but impossible. "The Israelis think all
they have to do is keep the Occupied Territories chopped up and
continuously impose police actions, and it just doesn't work," Gould says.
"Countries like India that went through the colonial experience
instinctively understand where Palestinian anger and violence are coming
from. Israelis, Americans and most Westerners, like the British during the
Raj, still don't get it. As in all past colonialism, there comes a point at
which the victims refuse to be rational anymore."

But in this care, one can easily make the argument that the colonialists
revel in apocalyptic irrationality as well. In 1923, radical Zionist Ze'ev
Jabotinsky—spiritual father of not only of Menachem Begin but of Meir
Kahane—wrote that the "sole way" for Jews to deal with Arabs in
Palestine was through "total avoidance of all attempts to arrive at a
settlement"—which Jabotinsky euphemistically termed the "iron wall"
approach. Not coincidentally, a picture of Jabotinsky graces Sharon's
desk. As the Israeli historian Avi Shlaim noted in a letter last year to the
University of London's Institute of Historical Research, Jabotinsky held
that the only time to negotiate with Arabs was after the "iron wall" had
been built. "The mistake of some of Israel's leaders, and especially the
leaders of the Right," Shlaim lamented, "is that they regard Israel's
military superiority not as an asset in negotiating a final settlement of
the conflict with the Palestinians, but as an instrument for perpetuating
Israel's mastery over them. The politicians of the Right still believe that
the only language the Arabs understand is force. . . . [but] Israel can
only have peace with the Arabs when it is prepared to meet them
halfway."