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To: Math Junkie who wrote (83)	12/9/2001 3:27:57 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6945

What is the evidence for that statement? The article you linked states that Sharon was responsible because he was in charge, but I don't see anywhere that it says that he ordered the killings. There isn't any. When Time Magazine charged that Sharon was complicit in the massacre, Sharon sued for libel, and won. It's not easy for a public figure to win a libel case in the US courts. The real charge against the Israelis is that they did not make efforts to prevent their Phalangist allies from conducting business as usual, which is what the massacre was in the context of the Lebanese civil war, on both sides. Many such massacres preceded Sabra and Chatilla, and many followed. You just never hear about them because there were no Israelis in the neighborhood when they happened. Have you heard of the Damour massacre? or the 1985 Sabra massacre? What gets me is, the same folks who decry the 1982 Sabra and Chatilla massacre as a horrible war crime, never even bother to indict Elie Hobeicka, the commander of the Phalangist troops who committed it.

To: Math Junkie who wrote (83)	12/10/2001 2:08:57 PM
From: Thomas M.	Respond to of 6945

Well, the meeting room between Sharon and the Phalangist leaders wasn't bugged, but what else could they have been talking about? <<< Israeli army commanders Eitan, Drori and Yaron made comments on how obsessed the Phalangists were with revenge, talking about a ‘sea of blood’ and ‘kasach’ (Arabic for ‘slashing’ or ‘cutting’). As they made these observations Ariel Sharon gave the green light for the Phalangists to enter Sabra and Shatila. They did so as dusk fell on the 16th of September. >>> Shortly after the massacre started, the U.S. envoy cabled Defense Minister Sharon, telling him, “You must stop the slaughter…. The situation is absolutely appalling. They are killing children. You have the field completely under your control and are therefore responsible for that area.” <<< We could see Israeli soldiers looking down at us through binoculars and could not help but note their proximity to the camp and their vantagepoint to activities within Sabra and Shatila. >>> <<< Groups of civilians, coming out of the camps with white flags, were being sent back. >>> On Friday, after the slaughter was well under way, and known even to the U.S., Sharon had another meeting with the Phalangists. The slaughter continued for another day. When someone puts a venomous snake in a baby’s cradle and the baby dies, the responsibility lies directly with the person who put the snake in the cradle. adcfresno.org hrw.org mediamonitors.net Tom