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To: Greg or e who wrote (549)	12/10/2001 11:46:22 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 667

Hi, Greg. I didn't get the point about anarchists in that story. The story was about pacifists and anti-war protesters. The girl who wanted to start an anarchist club was wearing an anti-war message on her t-shirt. The anarchist bit was kind of a red herring, I'd say. Anarchists don't want to establish a communist regime. They don't want any government at all. I don't see anything treasonous in advocating the dissolution or slimming down of our government. Fine line between an anarchist and a libertarian. Anarchy only becomes traitorous, IMO, if one advocates dissolving the government by overthrowing it. It's hard to tell from the limited information provided if this girl's form of anarchism supports violent overthrow or not. I would think not since she is also anti-war. I consider anarchism and pacifism to be legitimate philosophies, although I do not subscribe to either, just as I think Christianity is a legitimate philosophy, although I do not subscribe to it. We should all be able to express and debate legitimate points of view, not be stifled by PCism. Opposing a war from other than pure pacifism once the country is engaged in it is a more complicated matter. I thought the best point in the story was "Students and free speech advocates say being asked to tread carefully on fresh wounds is one thing, but being silenced is quite another." Those who are screaming about free speech for anti-war messages need to learn to use a little judgment. Those who shout down pacifists before they can even make their points need to understand better what this country stands for. Neither group can get that education if the second group doesn't let us discuss it. That girl needs an education, not suppression or a law suit. Karen

To: Greg or e who wrote (549)	12/10/2001 6:01:52 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 667

Since the main goal of Anarchists (as I understand it) seems to be the overthrow of government by violence (I thought violence was bad) and the subsequent instillation of a Communist regime.(it worked so well in Russia) The anarchist did not want a communist regime. They wanted to tear down the old regime, and the communists used them, getting their help in tearing down the old, and then setting up their own communist regime which was not very hospitable to anarchists. Tim