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To: Zeev Hed who wrote (96)12/11/2001 1:33:19 AM
From: Thomas M.  Respond to of 6945
 
we are using the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan, and we have seen the massacre in Mazar E Sharif, and no one is blaming Bush for it (he "should" have known that the Northern AllianceTajiks and Uzbeks and the Pushtun Talibans had a long lasting blood feud between them just as the Christian and Palestinians had in Lebanon, in both cases due to earlier mutual massacres).

That is not the same, as far as I know. Israel literally oversaw the massacre, from its watchpost. Israel had guards standing outside the camp, sending fleeing refugees back into the camp. Israel resisted U.S. pleas to stop the massacre. Israel met with the Phalangist leaders during the slaughter (after it was well known to be happening - even the U.S. knew about it by then), and then sent them back in. Did the U.S. play such a direct role in Mazar E Sharif?

Tom



To: Zeev Hed who wrote (96)12/12/2001 12:31:17 AM
From: Thomas M.  Respond to of 6945
 
Oh, I just found the real capper on the whole Sharon massacre in 1982. The reason given for his occupation of Beirut was to protect the Palestinians from the Phalangists!

<<< Sharon occupied West Beirut in September 1982, after the assassination of the Maronite Prime Minister Bashir Gemayel, on the announced and highly believable pretext that Palestinian civilians would need protection from Phalangist reprisal. He then sent into their undefended camps the most extreme faction of the Phalangist militia and backed up the dirty work of these notorious fascists with flares during the night, and rear-guard cover during the day, for thirty-six hours before having them escorted out in triumph and thanked for their work. In other words, the bulk of US overseas military aid is about to be lavished on a man who stood with hands on hip, in belt and boots and steel helmet and binoculars, and saw a mound of human corpses rise, and who thought it good. >>>

thenation.com

Tom



To: Zeev Hed who wrote (96)12/12/2001 12:30:30 PM
From: Thomas M.  Respond to of 6945
 
The head of Israeli intelligence: the Phalangists "talk about solving the Palestinian problem with a hand gesture whose meaning is physical elimination... I don't think anybody had any doubts about this... They raised the issue of Lebanon being unable to survive as long as this size of population existed there."

General Eitan: " the IDF would provide all the necessary support: artillery, air etc as if they were regular IDF units".

"Under the established law of command responsibility - also known as indirect responsibility - this is watertight evidence of the conscious and effective chain of command,"

Ariel Sharon: "A question was raised before, what would happen to the Palestinian camps once the terrorists withdraw... You've got to act... So that there be no terrorists you've got to clean the camps."

guardian.co.uk

Tom