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To: combjelly who wrote (152134)	12/11/2001 9:02:50 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Combjelly, Re: "the die cost might as well be discounted because the die were going to be dumpster filler otherwise" Do you intend this to be a blatantly 'Droidish comment, or did I misunderstand you? Just what do you mean by suggesting that Intel would manufacture any kind of product - just to throw it away afterward? wbmw

To: combjelly who wrote (152134)	12/11/2001 9:11:28 PM
From: puborectalis	Respond to of 186894

New Pentium 4 chipset to tiptoe out By John G. Spooner ZDNet News December 11, 2001 4:22 PM PT Intel is planning the stealth introduction of a chipset that will let computer makers connect the Pentium 4 to speedy DDR (double data rate) memory. Intel will allow PC makers to quietly begin taking orders for computers fitted with a new version of its 845 chipset Dec. 17, CNET News.com has learned. The official announcement of the chipset and the corresponding fanfare won't come until early January. Intel declined to comment. The new chipset, a variation on the Intel 845 introduced in September, is a significant move for the company. DDR SDRAM is a faster version of synchronous dynamic RAM, the standard system memory used in desktop PCs. Like standard memory, DDR SDRAM costs less than memory based on designs from Rambus, called RDRAM. RDRAM was, at one time, the only memory available for the Pentium 4. The 845 chipset introduced in September has been an incredibly popular substitute. When it came out, 845/SDRAM combination shaved about $100 off the cost of a Pentium 4 computer, allowing PC makers to offer desktop/monitor combinations for about $850. PCs equipped with 845/DDR SDRAM should start around the same price or just a bit higher, sources said. Computers that use chips from Intel rival Advanced Micro Devices already can use DDR SDRAM. The upcoming 845 chipset will support the two most popular forms of DDR-SDRAM, called PC 1600 and PC 2100. According to component-tracking Web site Pricewatch.com, 128MB modules of SDRAM were selling on Tuesday for about $10. At the same time, 128MB modules of PC 2100 DDR SDRAM were going for about $20 and 128MB modules of RDRAM for about $33. Intel began the shipments a couple of week ago to coordinate PC makers, motherboard makers and other companies that will sell the new chipset, sources said. Intel follows chipset makers such as Via Technologies and Acer Labs in introducing DDR SDRAM for the Pentium 4. The Via chipset, however, is the subject of several lawsuits between Intel and Via.

To: combjelly who wrote (152134)	12/11/2001 10:14:14 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Combjelly, <the die cost might as well be discounted because the die were going to be dumpster filler otherwise...> Just like the spare fab capacity available at AMD's Fab 25? Tenchusatsu