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To: Thomas M. who wrote (9827)	12/12/2001 2:43:00 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Non-flimsy source.. cdn-friends-icej.ca Barak also set an alternate objective for the summit: if a settlement is not reached, at least "the PLO's positions will be exposed. And consequently, unity will be achieved amongst the Israelis, who will now know – in case the Palestinians clash with Israel – that we tried everything we could to avoid it."[5] Israeli Positions Unveiled at the Summit Barak deviated – in an indirect and conditional fashion[6] – from some of his (and Israel's) long-standing ''red lines'' and softened some of his positions as follows: He agreed to "divide Jerusalem," by transferring sovereignty in remote Arab neighborhoods in Jerusalem to the PA. He also expressed readiness to consider – if the Palestinians endorsed this American proposal – the transfer of sovereignty in the Muslim and Christian quarters of the Old City, maintaining Israeli sovereignty on the Temple Mount, while assigning the Palestinians the status of Custodians of the Holy Places on the Temple Mount, and allotting a small site of the Temple Mount for Jewish prayers.[7] He accepted the idea of transferring pre-67 Israeli territories to PA control in exchange for blocks of settlements in the territories to be annexed by Israel. He accepted the concept of the humanitarian framework of family reunions, allowing some refugees to return to pre-67 Israel as well as the Palestinian state.[8] He was prepared to withdraw from parts of the Jordan valley.[9] PLO Positions Unveiled at the Summit Contrary to prevailing convictions among Israeli political observers (as well as among others in the west,) during the summit the Palestinians revealed that their demands are not mere tactical positions, but rather non-negotiable strategic goals and principles.[10] These demands were: The full implementation of UN Security Council Resolution 242 regarding Jerusalem,[11] namely: the demand for Palestinian sovereignty not only in Arab neighborhoods of Jerusalem but also in the Old City, including the Temple Mount and the Western Wall. (Regarding the Western Wall, the Palestinians expressed willingness to discuss special arrangements in order to secure Jewish religious activities at this site.)[12] The implementation of UN General Assembly Resolution 194, including the principle of Israel's responsibility for the Palestinian refugee problem and the right of all refugees to return if they wish.[13] According to PLO Executive Committee Chairman Abu Mazen, the Palestinian delegation opposed any limitation on the number of refugees allowed to return to Israel "even if they [the Israelis] offered us the return of three million refugees."[14] The refugee issue received limited media coverage compared to the Jerusalem issue. However, both Barak and Arafat emphasized that on this issue, too, the sides have reached an impasse. Barak himself noted that the Palestinians did not yield on the Palestinian right of return issue, which might prevent the sides from reaching an agreement to end the conflict.[15] In a Ramallah speech, on his return from the summit, Arafat emphasized that "the return of the refugees is sacred, and its sanctity is not less than that [assigned to] the holy places [in Jerusalem]."[16]

To: Thomas M. who wrote (9827)	12/12/2001 5:50:03 PM
From: Rollcast...	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Your heroes... dailynews.yahoo.com A roadside bomb was detonated as the bus turned a corner near the entrance to the settlement in the northern West Bank. Seconds later, three Palestinian gunmen tossed grenades and opened fire with machineguns at passengers fleeing the bus after the explosion and rescue workers who came to help the wounded. Officials said 10 people were killed and at least 30 wounded, five of them critically. Many of the victims were believed to be settlers, whom militants consider legitimate targets as occupiers of Palestinian lands

To: Thomas M. who wrote (9827)	12/13/2001 4:18:19 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 23908

Re: There is no indication the Israelis were involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, but investigators suspect that they may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance and not shared it. Well, I guess that sums it up.... As I said, if the 911 terrorist attacks were originally planned as "regular hijackings" but, somehow, got out of hand because of the assassination of Masood, then French and Israeli agents who were assigned a "ringside seat" in the US to monitor the operation find themselves in a scrape... LOL! Just like in the movie Fargo, they've been screwed by Arab hijackers turned kamikaze. Gus