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To: TigerPaw who wrote (1454)12/12/2001 5:13:38 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
TP, I hadn't heard anything about this. POST any references that you find.

Thanks,

Mephisto



To: TigerPaw who wrote (1454)12/12/2001 5:15:04 PM
From: Mephisto  Respond to of 15516
 
BIN LADEN ESCAPED TO PAKISTAN claims CSM

The Christian Science Monitor
By Philip Smucker | Special to The Christian Science Monitor
December 12. 2001

TORA BORA, AFGHANISTAN
As US airstrikes pound Tora Bora, a top Al Qaeda aide says the leader
Osama bin Laden escaped the embattled Tora Bora base to Pakistan 10 days ago
with the help of tribesmen from the Ghilzi tribe, according to a firsthand account
Wednesday by a senior Al Qaeda operative and Saudi financier. Abu
Jaffar, who spoke from an Afghan village still sympathetic to Mr. bin
Laden and his fighters, says that several days later, bin Laden sent
his 19-year-old, married son Salah Uddin back to act on his behalf.
He is now the only bin Laden family member inside the Tora Bora
terror base.

"Osama bin Laden traveled out of Tora Bora two times in this
Ramadan holy month. He left to meet Taliban leader Mullah
Mohammad Omar about three weeks ago and stayed with him near
Kandahar," Mr. Jaffar says. "He left again just over a week ago and
was headed to Pakistan, where he was helped across the border by
Pashtun tribesmen."

This account of bin Laden's movements is the first detailed evidence
that the Saudi national has escaped the nightly inferno of US
bombing raids on Tora Bora.

The account also matched earlier accounts
of bin Laden's movements from his arrival in
the White Mountains two days before the
departure of the Taliban from Jalalabad and
his lengthy dealings with sympathizers in the
Pakistani town of Parachinar.

American and Afghan officials, who have
been insisting that bin Laden is in Eastern
Afghanistan, have sounded less certain in recent days about their
own accounts of the movements of the world's most wanted man.
The interview with the Saudi financier and religious scholar, Mr. Jaffar,
was conducted through an Arabic-speaking reporter and interpreter in
a remote village at the base of Tora Bora.

Jaffar had stayed in the village for one night, after his foot was blown
off by a stray cluster bomb. He had stepped on the bomb after exiting
his family's cave amid heavy bombing to look for injured persons. He
was traveling Wednesday with his Egyptian wife, a daughter, and a
13-year-old Yemeni orphan boy. The four, who had been brought four
hours on foot from inside the embattled Al Qaeda base, intended to
leave clandestinely in the morning for Pakistan. Jaffar, who traveled
with bin Laden in a truck out of Jalalabad, says: "Osama is my good
friend. My own son was working with his son Salah Uddin in Ghazni.
"After Osama left 10 days ago, he contacted us inside Tora Bora to
tell us that he was sending his own son to be with us there. His son
traveled through Paktia province with 30 Arabs and 50 Afghan
fighters.

"Yesterday, Salah Uddin told me to leave, and he gave me money
because I will likely need another operation on my leg."

During the interview, the Saudi financier, who studied in Cairo's Al
Azhar University, reached in his pocket and pulled out a wad of
British notes to show that he had enough money for his travels.

Like hundreds of other Arabs with Al Qaeda ties who have gone
before him, Jaffar intends to flee Afghanistan by traveling north and
then east on a road in the direction of the famed Khyber Pass before
crossing the Kabul River in a wooden boat and traveling into a remote
tribal area of Pakistan. The Saudi financier's Egyptian wife cried
throughout the two-hour interview. "I've seen my sweet brothers and
sisters killed by fire from the sky. Alas, I've begged them to leave,
and they have refused. They want to die there for the sake of Allah."

Jaffar says that most of the family of Ayman al-Zawahiri, the Egyptian
doctor known as the right-hand man of bin Laden, have been killed by
the US bombing. He says that earlier reports - mostly Afghan - of Mr.
Zawahiri's own death had proved false. This account matched an
obituary for Zawahiri's family, but not for himself, in an Egyptian
newspaper last week.

Only Wednesday, one of two senior Afghan warlords said that only
bin Laden and his top 22 deputies should be brought to justice. "The
rest will be able to go free," says the regional security chief, Hazrat
Ali, who has been working closely with persons he refers to as "US
military advisers" on the ground. Most Al Qaeda fighters inside Tora
Bora had been prepared to give themselves up after the departure of
bin Laden.

But when Al Qaeda loyalists were informed a week ago that "scores
of British and American commandos" had entered the region at
Jalalabad, a decision was taken by the fighters to stand and "fight
the infidels," Jaffar says. Jaffar, who characterized himself as a
moderate among the hundreds of hard-core fighters still inside Tora
Bora, says that Chechen and Algerian fighters had resisted surrender
more than Saudi, Yemeni, or Egyptian nationals. The Saudi financier,
who left the Tora Bora camp only Tuesday afternoon, says that the
idea of a "surrender" was now only acceptable to a small segment of
the remaining Al Qaeda fighters.

"I was involved in the discussions about a peaceful surrender," he
says. "We had agreed to send two men to discuss the issue,
including our demands for amnesty and safe passage out of
Afghanistan." He says that Chechen fighters, who are manning heavy
machinegun posts, are the most resistant to the idea of surrendering.

Both Jaffar and his wife provided the first detailed account of how bad
life has become inside the Tora Bora base. The partial siege of the
base by Western-backed Afghans and US Special Forces has
depleted food supplies and left many Al Qaeda members looking for
a way out.

Egyptian and Afghan sources close to Al Qaeda say that 120 Al
Qaeda fighters inside Tora Bora have been killed by US air raids in
the past three weeks. But the Arabs and Chechens inside Tora Bora
still have a functioning hospital, according to Jaffar. His leg was
amputated there. He says that most Al Qaeda members do not leave
their elaborate cave complex unless they have to relieve themselves.

Jaffar also says that for two weeks, scores, if not hundreds, of Arabs
have been safely spirited out of the Tora Bora camp. He says that
some senior members in the current Jalalabad government are aware
of the Al Qaeda members' movements, and that the journeys have
been paved with hard cash. Most of the Arabs escaping to safety are
women children and old people. Wounded soldiers and some young
men have also been permitted by bin Laden's son to leave the
embattled base.

csmonitor.com