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To: greenspirit who wrote (210056)	12/14/2001 11:51:40 AM
From: Neeka	Respond to of 769670

Thank you for that explanation Michael. I had never heard of this before. Google here I come. Being a staunch conservative married to a more moderate university educated conservative, there are lively debates and discussions that take place in my household. The irony is that my grandfather was a wobbly (Industrial Workers of the World) really all of his life, and everyone in my family going way back were staunch dems. M

To: greenspirit who wrote (210056)	12/14/2001 12:41:23 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 769670

Mike, I can only speak to getting a BSEE from Northeastern. I'd say the single loop learning required feeding back an understanding of extremely complex physical interactions. The nature of testing was to present real would problems that showed the ability to use several assumptions to suggest solutions that challenged the obvious. But all solutions were based on a true and clear understanding of very complex mathematics. Now for me this made my understanding of the physical world much more complete and I worked to understand the mathematical connections. My best friend however saw the math so simply but could not relate it to the real world. My friend went to class once a week and knew what math would be used to show whatever for the week. He always aced the tests. I worked hard. But to design and build even the simplest circuit he was very very very weak. I'd have working designs instantly. I'd could build the circuit and then draw the schematic. As lab partners I would design and build it and my partner would create all the equations that defined why it would do whatever. My friend and I both got BSEE. I did EE and he went into traffic planning. Cars are electrons and streets are wires that one can visualize. And a bad traffic design only has people blowing their emotional fuses but no burning. Well now we road rage now but that's clintonian stress release cause we have to feel good now and no one is responsible for their actions. This is my own example of how a degree does not indicate ability. But my friend had his pick of many more jobs that I could do 100 times better. My friend also knew his limitations and I worked to minimize mine. tom watson tosiwmee