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To: tcmay who wrote (65677)	12/14/2001 1:15:55 PM
From: chuckles58	Respond to of 275872

"I will make Paul Engel look like a mild-mannered accountant." Hey, leave me out of this argument.<ggg> CB

To: tcmay who wrote (65677)	12/14/2001 1:26:34 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Tim- >Stop lecturing me and giving me grade school "be nice" advice. I respond to lies by turning up the heat several notches. If Dan3 continues to misrepresent what I say I will make Paul Engel look like a mild-mannered accountant I'm only giving you a grade school lecture because you seem to need it. I don't think Dan's trying to lie, he just tends to speculate pretty often. >This is the second time you have offered your twittish views Pardon? My views are anything but twittish. >What is this, "Miss Manibanners"? I've got a pretty long fuse, but this really crosses the line. I don't want to be compared to a group of horrible murderers. I will submit a complaint to Mani if you use that term again. It's entirely inappropriate. Once again, I don't want to see you banned, but you're toeing a fine line. -Z

To: tcmay who wrote (65677)	12/14/2001 2:07:38 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

tcmay, Before you leave, including yourself, how many past and present Intel employees and Intel contractors are posting on the Silicon Investor Intel and AMD threads? Thanks, Steve

To: tcmay who wrote (65677)	12/14/2001 4:19:18 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Tim, It seems you may be reluctant to admit there is some validity to the comments about AI that differ with yours. Now an AI is a program that emulates a true intelligence...right? Now in a real world situation this would involve a sea of assorted inputs from senses or other sources that constitute the situation the AI needs to respond to...right? That appears to be a situation where the AI will have to constantly jump from one task to another in response to the weighted priorities of these tasks...right? These jumps from this to that are just what was referred to as cache dumping situations. The Athlon XP will beat the P-4 in this application...right? Conversely a video game or a matrix calculation will have long sequences of calculations that are very queuable and whose sequence is known thus are just the type that the P-4 would like and do well at. One would expect that the P-4 woult beat the Athlon XP at this task.right? I assume they are all running at the same true speed. Ignore the AMD rating. Now in these application the Athlon XP beats the P-4 in all of them at the same clock. Now the P-4 can run a faster clock and thus might be able to beat the Athlon XP due to this extra speed? But does it? Has anyone done benchmarks on that type of simulated situation? I dunno, however the Graphic work station makers have come out strongly in favour of the so called slower Athlon XP versus the P-4. It looks like the Athlon 4XP at 1400 Mhz easily defeats that P-4 at 2000 Mhz....the supposed strong ground of the P-4. Bill