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To: greenspirit who wrote (41970)	12/15/2001 12:48:05 PM
From: BubbaFred	Respond to of 50167

Good point. Despite all the efforts, the border is naturally porous as sieve. No matter what government policies implemented, they may not reach beyond 30 miles from outskirts of Lahore. The article brought forth one interesting aspect, that is the mindset of people in extreme distant areas from large cities and political bases. Population in rural areas have developed very independent with their own set of heroes and ideology. They are considered as paupers of lower socioeconomic stature and have been long neglected. They have been considered harmless if left in their own poverty and ignorance. They do not belong to any social or class clique that can channel federal programs (from foreign aids) to benefit and improve their living condition or education system. They do serve as a pool for society's peons and common laborers. One corrupt government after another have existed to benefit their own kinds and associates, reaping and stuffing their own pockets with money from heaven that came from foreign aids. None or hardly any went to upgrade those living in rural areas. They live in and from their lands (farms) that have been handed down and split up from generations to the next. By now, most have only small plots and are subsitence farmers. Children cannot expect to get enough land to make living as farmers. Children are not provided and equipped with the tools needed to join the mainstream societies in large cities. Rural area schools teach in Urdu, which the leaders mandated for the sake of maintaining traditional values. On the other hand, everyone knows that English is required in mid to upper level government positions and in most economic affairs. Therefore there exists two societies or two countries within one country. Each one homogeneous to itself and able to intertwined economically, but carries its own mindset and its own set of heroes. Perhaps this is one of many reasons the militant Islamic schools have been able to thrive in Pakistan.

To: greenspirit who wrote (41970)	12/15/2001 5:47:55 PM
From: Dennis O'Bell	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50167

’There Will Be Many More Bin Ladens’ I think this widespread claim is arrant nonsense. There are very, very few people with the resources and intelligence that bin Laden had who will devote themselves to the Perfectly Stupid Idea. We can be really grateful for that. There will be other dangerous terrorists, but if radical Muslims claim that they have an unlimited supply of bin Laden clones, they're just trying to puff their egos in the face of a disastrous and well merited rout.

To: greenspirit who wrote (41970)	12/15/2001 9:11:02 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50167

Michael, I know that area like a back of my palm, these tribal will kill a man for 20$'s for me to believe that these guys will et this Laden Looney roam free is nothing but same stretch of imagination which reported that Mushharaf will not survive this, or Pakistan will implode. I can see what has changed in my own society, pin ups of Osama are in the gutters instead of selling for some money, the person and his followers have lost all respect. Of course, Islamic bonds and so-called unity still makes some feel tilted towards him but if he comes near to them, he will be treated as 'plague infectious person' no one wants him, and these tribes have existed as a free man for thousands of years they know which side of the bread is buttered. They are master of compromises and so they have maintained freedom not by loyalties to anything. I see a change, I see a move forward, I see that threat of talbinsation of region is gone, the lessons are hard and brittle and the guys like Hazrat Aliu after Laden are not Harvard graduates or Ivy leaguers, the people on the ground are same Pushtun who until 30 days back were not ready to desert Osama or the other character Omar. They lack courage of conviction and they are devoid of loyalty when it comes to booty, Osama is a very lonely and pathetic character today, the world terrorists are watching it, once it is dawned that this is how terrorists are gong to paid, rest assure no one likes bombs... Money is thicker than blood; Osama meets its nemesis 'money' that helped him create the network, the lure of earning equally by presenting his head has made him hide in a hole like a rat.His closest are closest trusted for betrayal. The story finishes here; yes, vigilance is required but responding by civility for barbaric actions that are aimed at blind killings need to be rewritten. I agree that wherever this kind of activity exists we need to counter it with adequate response.