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To: Paul Engel who wrote (152625)	12/15/2001 8:06:28 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, from the article you posted. The author referred to memtest86. Here's a paragraph from the apps notes: teresaudio.com "I have had numerous reports of errors in only tests 5 and 8 on Athlon systems. Often the memory works in a different system or the vendor insists that it is good. In these cases the memory is not necessarily bad but is not able to operate reliably at Athlon speeds. Sometimes more conservative memory timings on the motherboard will correct these errors. In other cases the only option is to replace the memory with better quality, higher speed memory. Don't buy cheap memory and expect it to work with an Athlon!"

To: Paul Engel who wrote (152625)	12/15/2001 11:05:36 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: Another UNSTABLE system! Paul, The most troublesome system we've had in a long time was the last batch of dual processor PIII systems (866mhz - instead of 1GHZ to not push the limits of the .18 PIII) we got in about a year ago. The drivers that shipped with the boards for the on-board RAID (as we found out after weeks of periodic crashes) were flaky. New drivers and a bios upgrade solved the problems, but it was quite ugly for a long time - long enough for people to be quite willing to try something else. So we started ordering dual processor Athlon systems and they've all been rock solid from day one - they are also a little faster than any dual processor Intel based system and cost somewhat less. Do you think the blame for the problems with the PIII systems should go to Intel and be applied to all Intel based systems? Or did the motherboard manufacturer (MSI) that shipped the original driver CD have something to do with it?