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To: Elmer who wrote (152633)	12/15/2001 11:27:57 PM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 186894

Elmer, the least stable systems out there are eMachines systems, and they are now 100% Intel. resellerratings.com There are lots of people having lots of trouble with Intel systems - and not just do-it-your-selfers who ignore static control measures while assembling systems in carpeted rooms, use out of spec memory, incompatible drivers, and out of spec power supplies. Do you think the reason eMachines systems have so many problems is the Intel chips they use?

To: Elmer who wrote (152633)	12/15/2001 11:44:29 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Elmer - Re: "Either way AMD seems to be plagued by system problems time and time again. Everywhere we look there are reports of instability. Could it be that Athlon itself is just too difficult to design a stable system for? " Most AtHWiper systems that are "benchmarked" are hot-rodded with CAS 266 DDR chips - but the few OEMs that bother to sell them use 100/200 MHz SDRAM !!!! Talk about fragility !! Paul

To: Elmer who wrote (152633)	12/16/2001 9:59:37 PM
From: Charles Gryba	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Elmer, not true. The biggest problem that I had seen was the sound blaster live and the ViaKt133a instability issue. As it turned out the problem also existed in some of the Apollo chipsets for the P3. C p.s. I have Athlon Webservers running 24/7 with no problems but I have encountered the Via problem myself. I also have a microatx board that uses the SIS730 chipset which worked flawlessly with an 800Mhz Athlon but it needs to be reset twice to boot properly with a 1Ghz Athlon under XP only so I am suspect of the SIS chipsets at this point. I am not sure SIS has had any chipsets for the P3 market that were produced in any significant volume.