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To: lorne who wrote (11854)	12/16/2001 12:15:15 PM
From: Captain Jack	Respond to of 27666

lorne-- what is most surprising is the Canadian military policy has changed just recently. You are correct at least through the 60s and possibly later. The acceptance of draft dodgers does not allude to any Canadian policy on terrorism but shows the accaptance of cowardice in other countrys by the leadership and certainly NOT by the Canadian military. Additionally, Mohamed Ali, Jane Fonda may he 'heros' to some but to vets they do not deserve to live in this country or Canada-- maybe Siberia, Vietnam, Cambodia, or Afganistan.

To: lorne who wrote (11854)	12/16/2001 12:18:40 PM
From: Captain Jack	Respond to of 27666

lorne-- what is most surprising is the Canadian military policy has changed just recently. You are correct at least through the 60s and possibly later. The acceptance of draft dodgers does not allude to any Canadian policy on terrorism but shows the accaptance of cowardice in other countrys by the leadership and certainly NOT by the Canadian military. Additionally, Mohamed Ali, Jane Fonda may he 'heros' to some but to vets they do not deserve to live in this country or Canada-- maybe Siberia, Vietnam, Cambodia, or Afganistan.

To: lorne who wrote (11854)	12/16/2001 12:18:41 PM
From: Captain Jack	Respond to of 27666

SI SUX big today,,

To: lorne who wrote (11854)	12/16/2001 12:46:41 PM
From: Captain Jack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

Lorne---- 1st SI SUX big today! You are correct in alluding the current military policy is rather recent. Again,, that is a leadership and NOT military policy. Still, one cannot survive and grow on history. The draft dodgers were not terrorists but indicates a verifyable time frame of the acceptance of cowardice, not just in Canada but when peanut head gave amnesty to the bastards also. As for Ali, Fonda and others. They may be well known but ask any vet if these fools are 'heros'. Possibly they should have been sent to Cambodia, Siberia, Afganistan, etc as they certainly do not deserve to live in the US,, unless in jail. Basically, we agree the problem is 'stupid govt policys' in BOTH countrys. After seeing the results of 9/11 I would have thought there may have been changes of policy in Canada as the same can happen there. The US and Canada are very dependent on each other in many areas. The last place any one in the US wants to see trouble is at our neighbors,, the policy changes of recent decades gives more concern for our neighbors than ever expected. Possibly the policy changes of recent in the US will remain for some time,, possibly more stupid changes will arise in the future,, but not until the current situation has been erradicated...

To: lorne who wrote (11854)	12/16/2001 12:46:42 PM
From: Captain Jack	Respond to of 27666

Lorne---- 1st SI SUX big today! You are correct in alluding the current military policy is rather recent. Again,, that is a leadership and NOT military policy. Still, one cannot survive and grow on history. The draft dodgers were not terrorists but indicates a verifyable time frame of the acceptance of cowardice, not just in Canada but when peanut head gave amnesty to the bastards also. As for Ali, Fonda and others. They may be well known but ask any vet if these fools are 'heros'. Possibly they should have been sent to Cambodia, Siberia, Afganistan, etc as they certainly do not deserve to live in the US,, unless in jail. Basically, we agree the problem is 'stupid govt policys' in BOTH countrys. After seeing the results of 9/11 I would have thought there may have been changes of policy in Canada as the same can happen there. The US and Canada are very dependent on each other in many areas. The last place any one in the US wants to see trouble is at our neighbors,, the policy changes of recent decades gives more concern for our neighbors than ever expected. Possibly the policy changes of recent in the US will remain for some time,, possibly more stupid changes will arise in the future,, but not until the current situation has been erradicated...

To: lorne who wrote (11854)	12/17/2001 6:43:41 AM
From: John Hunt	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27666

A draft dodger now called general [ John Ashcroft's testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee last week -- during which he declared that his critics "only aid terrorists, for they erode our national unity and diminish our resolve" -- was despicable. And not just for the obvious reasons. Ashcroft, you see, is the last person who should be accusing others of undermining a war effort, given his own sorry performance during the Vietnam War. While attending Yale and then the University of Chicago Law School in the 1960s, Ashcroft repeatedly sought and received student deferments from his local draft board in Springfield, Missouri. In this, Ashcroft was hardly unique. But, as The Boston Globe reported last January, when Ashcroft graduated from law school in 1967 he took the far less common step of seeking an occupational deferment granted to those who hold critical civilian jobs. (Out of 35 million men registered with the Selective Service in 1967, only 264,000 received occupational deferments.) The "critical" job in question? Teaching business law to undergrads at Southwest Missouri State University -- an assignment he lined up with the help of a family friend. Although Ashcroft's draft board had already earmarked him for induction -- indeed, Ashcroft had already passed his pre-induction physical -- the board reversed itself and granted the deferment, and Ashcroft spent the rest of the Vietnam War in Missouri, safe and sound. And quiet: Although Ashcroft was clearly eager to avoid going to Vietnam, he never protested the war. At least those people Ashcroft now brands traitors have the courage to voice their dissent. ] tnr.com