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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (41028)	12/17/2001 6:29:12 PM
From: E	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 82486

I am nearly choking on the sophistication of some people, who defame the current Administration and create mare's nests to feed their paranoia...... I don't know what "mares' nests" connote, and haven't noticed, on the left, the least sophistication going on. Perhaps our definitions of that word differ. I use it to mean something like worldly wise. What I've noticed on the left is the opposite: rampant denial, blind "political correctness," and a naivete that, if it were accompanied by power, might well be lethal to us. I've noticed that there is a tendency on the left to believe that whoever is darker and poorer is better, to put it most starkly. This accords with the odd notion, or definition, also strongly prevalent on the left, that only the white oppressors can be racist, the disadvantaged, never. I don't call these American citizen leftists 'traitors,' or suggest they be deported, or liken them to Hitler, or attack their professional competence, or pretend they have spoken against our "young men" when it is untrue. I simply state my position and plan to vote for whoever seems best to understand that we Americans are hated by millions of Muslims zealots abroad and at home, and there is nothing we can do about that with loving expressions on our faces and a tone of sweet reason. They want to kill us all and our grandchildren, duh, and oppress those they haven't murdered, and I want to foil this desire on their part. It's a new ball game, as any citizen should plainly see, at this point, even if they didn't before, imo. I am going to post an apposite piece by Christopher Hitchens from the Nation if it's online....

To: Neocon who wrote (41028)	12/17/2001 6:31:45 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

thenation.com Excerpts, though the whole article is very interesting: <<The United States of America has just succeeded in bombing a country back out of the Stone Age. This deserves to be recognized as an achievement, even by those who want to hasten past the moment and resume their customary tasks (worrying about the spotty human rights record of the Northern Alliance is the latest thing). The nexus that bound the Taliban to the forces of Al Qaeda and that was symbolized by the clan relationship between Mullah Omar and Osama bin Laden, has been destroyed. We are rid of one of the foulest regimes on earth, while one of the most vicious crime families in history has been crippled and scattered. It remains to help the Afghan exiles to return, to save the starving and to consolidate the tentative emancipation of Afghan women... No possible future government in Kabul can be worse than the Taliban, and no thinkable future government would allow the level of Al Qaeda gangsterism to recur. So the outcome is proportionate and congruent with international principles of self-defense. This is the best news for a long time. It deserves to be said, also, that the feat was accomplished with no serious loss of civilian life, and with an almost pedantic policy of avoiding "collateral damage." The hypocritical advice of the Pakistani right wing (keep it short, don't bomb, don't bomb during Ramadan, beware of the winter, leave Kabul alone) was finally ignored as the insidious pro-Taliban propaganda that it actually was. Those ultraleftists and soft liberals who repeated the same stuff--in presumable ignorance of its real source and intention--could safely be ignored then and needn't be teased too much now. The rescue of the Iraqi Kurds in 1991 taught them nothing; they were for leaving Bosnia and Kosovo to the mercy of Milosevic; they had nothing to say about the lack of an international intervention in Rwanda. The American polity is now divided between those who can recognize a new situation when they see it, and those who cannot or will not...>> [bolding is mine. E]