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To: Larry S. who wrote (36051)	12/17/2001 8:15:59 PM
From: Kelvin Taylor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 53068

"Still, I can't believe AT&T will do the right thing and sell broadband. Far more likely still is a decision to keep it and manage it by itself, which will lead to an even faster denouement for this once great company. " I haven't like T for a long long long time. they keep getting it wrong. time to delete T from the DOW and replace it with a stronger more focused company. maybe with YHOO?

To: Larry S. who wrote (36051)	12/17/2001 8:43:56 PM
From: BWAC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 53068

Crammer must be ignoring the cash flow from the $5 Billion of Depreciation and Amortization that drags F's earnings down each year. Geeez F had $12.6 Billion of EBITDA in the last trailing twelve months. For a market cap of $29 Billion currently. And T? If you fired every manager idiot then it would be worth triple. Who cares about that mere pocket change $10 Billion EBITDA. Chump change to big guys like Crammer. Can someone please tell me why these guys are still considered experts? And exactly what they are an expret at.