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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (11936)	12/18/2001 8:21:57 PM
From: Giordano Bruno	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

Every nation-state adopts selfish, sovereign interest to some degree...including Tibet. Your move.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (11936)	12/18/2001 8:44:11 PM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

Len, "some perpetrated by us" How about some sense of scale. Evil doesn't always equal evil. For example - we interred 100,000+ Japanese during WWII. Yes this was unjustified and possibly evil and racist and all that. What did the Japanese do? They performed medical experiments on POW's, tortured and killed POW's and performed such small acts as the rape of manchuria and the Bataan Death march. on the German side we did not do enough to help out jews escaping (or conduct operations to save them). Evil - possibly, but there were other priorities and no one had full knowledge of what was happening until late '44. The germans? The holocaust among other atrocities. Vietnam, Cuba? We could argue for centuries about mistakes that may have driven these entities into Soviet hands. But they may have gone the same way anyway. The cold war was always hotter than most people thought and some of the best evidence of this is the files of the KGB. If not for them, lots of folks would still think that Julius Rosenberg was innocent :-) John