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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: William B. Kohn who wrote (12030)12/20/2001 5:37:04 PM
From: Captain Jack  Respond to of 27722
 
WoW! Bill you have the patience of Job to try and educate the retarded! Why not just eliminate the PALs? That would make the world much more peaceful and eliminate contaminated genes from the pool...;-] Seems like Isreals military would have little problem! The PALs fighting Isreal gives indication of their intelligence level-- they would bring a knife to a gunfight! Suicide bombers against F-16s? LOL!



To: William B. Kohn who wrote (12030)12/21/2001 2:29:18 PM
From: Elmer Flugum  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 27722
 
William,

Take a look at this map and figures associated with the graphic.Perhaps you are confusing the population and cultural figures with Jerusalem alone.

Some Palestinians who have been displaced by Zionism, still have the deeds to their land and the key to their front doors. Pre-1948, Palestinians and Jews owned ~6-9% of the land in the Mandate. Much of that land was owned by absentee landlords, mostly by other Arabs.

"How has the deeds to the homes of the Jews that the British evicted in 1929 both in Hebron and in Gaza."

How many were evicted and why were they evicted.? The Jews who lost their properties in Egypt,Iraq,Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan should be compensated for their losses. But let me make two additional points in regards to this. Some say that the majority of these Arab Jews left their countries voluntarily to go to the "Jewish" State and were not kicked out ( I am dubious of this claim in it's entirety) and that if the claims of having been booted out, this action was in retaliation of the establishment of the State of Israel. These Jews lived in those countries for numerous years and if the Arabs wanted them out or "into the sea" as you claim,they had plenty of time and opportunity to do it.

"The US did not strong arm the '48 vote. US's vote wasn't known until hours before the vote."

I think it is clear who was behind the establishment of the State. European and American powers were spear-heading the effort,and not knowing what America's vote was is not altogether accurate. The fix was in already.

"As for the bible, it is a controlling document that supposedly is the foundation of three major religions. Christians, Jews, and Muslims believe in the book that you call a 'not a legal document'. Most law in both the Western and the Islamic world, is based upon that book, treating it as fact.'

The Bible may in fact be an article of Faith but it is no legal document or land deed. What more can be said about that?

"Jews would not be welcome in Poland, to their old homes, nor in Germany, France, or any of the Islamic
countries. Your solution is another genocide on the Jews.
"

Jews are re-establishing communities in Germany and to a lesser degree in Poland and other European countries.The likelihood of a return to an Arab country presently,or in the near future looks remote. Genocide sounds to me like an overstatement by you and perhaps an alarmist stand, to justify continuation of the staus quo. You make it sound like there are Jew haters on every street-corner in the world.

"And why settle on 1945 as the date. Why not 1900?

I chose 1945 because it is my position that it was at about that time that the forces of Zionism had their most damaging actions in Palestine. I am repeating myself here...IMHO, it was legitimate for the people of Europe, fleeing Nazism, to be placed in Palestine for safety and settlement (Arabs did not object to this, but warned of increased immigration), but to use the atrocities in Europe as a springboard for a "Jewish"State was immoral. The partition of Palestine, over the objections of the Arab nations, was an act of war.

Two questions:

How many Arab nations signed the documents to partition Palestine?

Why was King Abdullah of Jordan assasinated in 1945?