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To: Thomas M. who wrote (10278)	12/22/2001 6:20:08 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Some of what you report below is true, such as the composition of Israeli lands prior to the apportionment. However, you're missing world-historical context during the 40's. Don't you remember someone called Hitler who was massacreing the Jews? The world wanted a place for the Jews where they could be safe. The Jews were all over the world as a result of the diaspora, which occurred as a result of their historical persecution and conquest by the Eqyptians, Babylonians, Romans, Assyrians, and you can name a host of others. So the area they were given was historically theirs millenia before the so-called Palestinians were ever in that part of the world. The Palestinians were never a nation anyway. Palestinians are mostly Lebonese. Some of the things you post below are false, like the highest per capita Phds in the world. That's flat out B.S. Unless those Phds are awarded at Palestinian universities, then I'd believe it, because the standards of education are not as high as in the rest of the world. How many nobel prize winners do you know that come out of Palestine, unless they are Israeli? Do you also know of the many times that the Israelis have been attacked unprovoked by the Egyptians, Lebanese, Iraqis etc? How many times has Israel had to defend itself against them? When will they be allowed to live in peace within their borders? Never, because the Arabs want to wipe them out or at least remove them from lands they claim are Arab, when in fact Israel has claims to it from millenia prior to the Arabs arriving in the region.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (10278)	12/22/2001 8:52:12 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Did you know that...Arabs lost not won? palestinehistory.com The Jews, assisted by the British, built a military power. A number of Israeli leaders, named President Ezra Weisman and the former President Haim Hertzog, had served in the British army during the Second World War. The British made it easy for the Jews to smuggle weapons and build secret military factories. They also handed over their camps to the Jewish settlers before leaving Palestine. More than 70,000 Jews were carrying weapons against only 20,000 Arabs, including Arab soldiers, Palestinian resistants and the Muslim Brotherhood Mujahideen. Ordered by the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia supplied the Jewish settlers with weapons while most of their funding came from the United States. Arab-Israeli War After 5 May 1948, several Arab armies entered Palestine, most notably the Egyptian, Jordanian, Syrian and Iraqi armies. Before that date, Palestinians had fought the Jewish settlers alone since 29 November 1947. The Jewish settlers conquered a number of Palestinian cities, namely Haifa, Jaffa, Safad and Acre, as well as a large number of Palestinian villages. The Arab armies were distributed over the different fronts, but, unfortunately, there was no coordination or cooperation among them. They did not back up each other. This tragedy was repeated in the June 1967 war. Although the armies fought bravely, they failed to keep their control on their fronts and were forced to retreat. The Arab armies committed a mistake by accepting the first Hudna (truce) in mid-1948 because the truce enabled the Zionists to bolster their forces with more soldiers and more weapons, including air fighters. They succeeded to break up the siege that was imposed by the Jordanian army and the Muslim Brotherhood Mujahideen on Western Jerusalem, which was about to surrender with 100,000 Jews inside.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (10278)	12/22/2001 9:01:22 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Immigration into Palestine - Statement by President Truman, October 4, 1946 yale.edu . I cannot believe that the gap between the proposals which have been put forward is too great to be bridged by men of reason and good-will. To such a solution our Government could give its support. In the light of the situation which has now developed I wish to state my views as succinctly as possible: 1. In view of the fact that winter will come on before the Conference can be resumed I believe and urge that substantial immigration into Palestine cannot await a solution to the Palestine problem and that it should begin at once. Preparations for this movement have already been made by this Government and it is ready to lend its immediate assistance. 2. I state again, as I have on previous occasions, that the immigration laws of other countries, including the United States, should be liberalized with a view to the admission of displaced persons. I am prepared to make such a recommendation to the Congress and to continue as energetically as possible collaboration with other countries on the whole problem of displaced persons. 3. Furthermore, should a workable solution for Palestine be devised, I would be willing to recommend to the Congress a plan for economic assistance for the development of that country. In the light of the terrible ordeal which the Jewish people of Europe endured during the recent war and the crisis now existing, I cannot believe that a program of immediate action along the lines suggested above could not be worked out with the cooperation of all people concerned. The administration will continue to do everything it can to this end.