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To: milo_morai who wrote (153061)	12/23/2001 2:53:44 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Ban Ban Milo MindBlo - Re: "Hammer will arrive at the correct time." Oh - a new AMDroid slogan - to tap dance around the fact that the ShamSter is TWO YEARS LATE !!! The CORRECT TIME !!! For what - to see NO SOFTWARE available to run on it? Has the ShamSter even taped out yet?

To: milo_morai who wrote (153061)	12/23/2001 2:57:34 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

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To: milo_morai who wrote (153061)	12/23/2001 3:00:22 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Ban Ban MindBlo - AMD gets only 2/27 Desktops at Best Buy !!! A paltry 7% !!!! And they are the old non eXPloders !!!! Get this - NO AMD AthWiper eXPloders at your favourite store !!! Guess who got the other 93% ? 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To: milo_morai who wrote (153061)	12/23/2001 3:36:29 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Hammer will arrive at the correct time. Milo, here's another place where AMD claimed Hammer would enter production in 1H2002. Do you still think Hammer will arrive at the correct time? sharkyextreme.com "The Hammer processors are planned to enter production in the first half of 2002 at speeds in excess of 2GHz." And lets not forget how well Itanic is doing. So Well in fact that DELL stopped using it and CPQ has yet to release it. I'm sure you realize by now you're wrong on both counts. EP

To: milo_morai who wrote (153061)	12/23/2001 4:15:08 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Ban Ban MindBlo - Will the ShamSter tape out in 2002?

To: milo_morai who wrote (153061)	12/23/2001 9:19:31 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Milo, <Hammer will arrive at the correct time.> Considering how much Hammer has slipped, I guess that all depends on what your definition of "correct time" is. Tenchusatsu