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To: Dan3 who wrote (153130)	12/24/2001 11:34:45 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Ban Ban Blow Hard Dan The Monica Man - Re: "First versions of anything based on parts from the commodity vendors like Intel and AMD often have minor problems" Yeah - AMD can't even get a simple 2-way system to work properly !!! 213.219.40.69 3Com boards cause dual Athlon crashes Tyan says drivers. We think not By Mike Magee, 24/12/2001 08:41:15 BST Updated 16.00 GMT DUAL ATHLON motherboard maker Tyan is claiming there is a driver conflict between 3Com's 3C996 Gigabit Ethernet adaptors AMD chipsets. But the problem may be worse than the bare words alone say and according to one reseller may hinder AMD from its goal to enter the server market. According to a question and answer list on the Tyan Website, the problem occurs with Network Neighborhood: "3.Why can't I browse Network Neighborhood with my 3Com 3C996 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter? "This is a driver issue with the 3c996 Gigabit Ethernet card and the AMD chipset. 3Com has the beta drivers that resolve this issue. Please contact 3Com tech support for more information." But one reseller badly affected by the problem said that is Windows marketing tranquiliser-talk. "In Win2000-speak it sounds so harmless, they cant 'browse the network neighborhood'," he said. "But the problem is more serious than this and is not a driver problem . 3Com's 3c996 causes the brand new dual Athlon boards (Tyan Thunder K7 as well as Tiger) to become unstable, they freeze sometimes. Once I saw this happen before the OS - Linux in this case - had even started, so it is emphatically not a driver problem," he added. "What a pity we bought 15 of these 3c996 cards," he said. Let's hope that AMD, 3Com and Tyan are not on holiday like Compaq until nearly Easter, so that we can attempt to get an answer to this glitch. µ * ANOTHER RESELLER of AMD and Tyan boards said he has come across this problem too, and writes: "We first observed the problem with the lowly 3C-905B Ethernet NIC. Then we had problems installing Linux on SCSI drives attached to the Adaptec on some Thunder boards. We also observed these problems with 3C982, and more devices. "How did we fix the problem, you might ask? Enter the BIOS settings. Go to the Advanced Page Turn the IDE channels back on (that is to say both, instead of Primary, or Secondary, or Disabled). It is a BIOS bug. Tyan was told about it by us at least a month ago, but so far have avoided doing anything about it."