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To: Biomaven who wrote (5243)12/26/2001 5:48:52 PM
From: IRWIN JAMES FRANKEL  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52153
 
Peter,

You never fail to amaze me with the "stuff" you come up with.

The responses to the study are a "hoot".

Here are two of my favorite for anyone who does not care to wade through them:

1 - A second, cross-over trial can be performed in which the control group becomes the experimental group and is prayed for. Should the results of the second trial demonstrate that the new experimental group have retrospectively improved outcomes then that really would be a breakthrough in the study of the existence of the non-material world. Thus God would have been shown to exist and one could return to a comforting Universe where a paternal, loving anthropomorphic being gives us protection from reality. And fairies would take up residence at the bottom of my garden.

2 - a) There was actually divine intervention. In such a case, it seems to me more plausible (it is more parsimonious) to suppose that, instead of deciding the length of stay and fever duration of each patient, He did something simpler for Him: to decide the outcome of the coin tossing (allocating those who had longer stays in the control group). If it is the case, there was not proper randomization and Leibovici´s study doesn’t offer anything new.

As for me - if God could be proven in some experiment it would confound the nature and purpose of faith - "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

ij



To: Biomaven who wrote (5243)12/26/2001 6:51:48 PM
From: Cosmo Daisey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52153
 
Peter,
Dr. Franks Winery of New York has the best wine in the world. In a recent analysis for resveratrol (rez-ver-a-trawl.) conducted by Cornell University Professor Leroy L. Creasy, Dr. Konstantin Frank's Fleur de Pinot Noir, a wine produced from the fruit of younger vines located on the Keuka Lake estate in the Finger lakes region of New York State, achieved a rating of 46.1 uMolar t-resveratrol - the highest resveratrol content of any wine ever encountered in Creasy's studies. (The average range for red wines is between 0.1 - 12.0 uM.)

For the past eight years Dr. Creasy, a professor of pomology at Cornell, has been studying resveratrol which has been proven to contain cancer-inhibiting properties and is also known to aid in combating heart disease. In the course of his studies, Creasy has discovered that grapes grown in New York, and especially the Finger lakes have some of the highest concentrations of resveratrol in the, world - a fact borne out by the recent test results on Dr. Frank's Fleur de Pinot Noir.

Resveratrol is an anti-fungal substance found on grape skins, but the grapes do not synthesize the substance until they are attacked by fungi. Because the Finger Lakes region is subject to prolific cloud cover and rainfall, the region's grapes tend to produce high concentrations of resveratrol as natural defense mechanism. In fact, in terms of resveratrol content Finger Lakes wines beat out red wines from other humid regions such as northern Italy, Burgundy, and Bordeaux.

Because resveratrol is found on the skins it is detected primarily in red wines which are fermented on the skins order to retain the color pigments. According to Creasy the alcohol that develops during fermentation helps release the resveratrol into the wine. Pinot Noir is especially high in resveratrol be cause the variety's thin skin and tight clusters make it particularly susceptible to problems resulting from moisture.

Pills of resveratrol have recently be come available in health stores around the country and Dr. Creasy purchased one brand of these pills and analyzed them for their resveratrol content. ' In comparison to a red wine, the pills are a poor source of resveratrol. One bottle of Dr. Frank's Fleur de Pinot Noir has the same amount of resveratrol as 17,000 capsules of commercial resveratrol pills and, in addition" at the price Dr. Creasy had to pay for the pills, to get the amount of resveratrol as one bottle of Dr. Frank's Fleur de Pinot Noir, you would have to buy $8,500 worth of pills.
drfrankwines.com

cdaisey@drinkmorewine.com



To: Biomaven who wrote (5243)12/27/2001 10:41:05 PM
From: Madharry  Respond to of 52153
 
I wonder whether anyone in either group was told that a condition of participation was that no one else could say any prayers on their behalf. Not likely. so how does the author of the study have any ideas as to how many other remote prayers were said on behalf of the subjects? Would that not be the equivalent of doing a study on a new drug but not controlling for other medications being given?