To: epicure who wrote (14880 ) 12/27/2001 6:48:11 PM From: 49thMIMOMander Respond to of 281500 Clear cutting is clearly the most profitable way of harvesting forest, if one can get out of that investment fast enough, interesting changes in PEG and hectar values. Incredible how much that little investment in ensuring another harvest, in just two or three generations, can diminish that dividend when true property values can move around fast enough. Ilmarinen (forest-finn, now investing in orange and teak forests in Africa) True capitalism is to think at least as long as a clear cut forest, 50-100 years, if one doesn't mess up. Who wants to be more stupid than a regular tree, shorter concentration span?? Additionally one learns to keep track of bubbles and cyclic markets, as especially a growing forest needs regular investments to get to that dividend of the third generation and the tiime of harvest can be adjusted through any bubble. (Anyway, I'm betting that more CO2,etc by the best and most producers on the globe will increase local growth, and as that wood will be pretty soft, fast growing, fertilized and not resistant to mold, I also bet on grown teak in Africa, great for window frames, garden furniture, porches,etc.Not much wild teak left so I'm counting on an extra dividend) Paying the true cost for wood as well as oranges would obviously make my investments more like keeping the money in the bank, but one must remember that the market is always wrong, especially long term. Additionally teak has not been shown to decrease sperm counts as most regular antimold chemicals. (they actually decrease the sperm counts of mold and the mold is gone in a couple of generations, kind of) But it sure feels good when the chainsaw does the clear cutting...