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To: AlienTech who wrote (15003)	12/29/2001 10:07:01 AM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

LOL, So all the invaders were good guys except the British. Lets quote that whole paragraph as one piece shall we -g- -SNIP- The Brits established an organisational and social structure unparalleled in Bengal, and Calcutta became one of the most important centres for commerce, education and culture in the subcontinent. However, many Bangladeshi historians blame the Brits' dictatorial agricultural policies and promotion of the semi-feudal zamindar system for draining the region of its wealth and damaging its social fabric. The British presence was a relief to the minority Hindus but a catastrophe for the Muslims. The Hindus cooperated with the Brits, entering British educational institutions and studying the English language, but the Muslims refused to cooperate, and rioted whenever crops failed or another local product was rendered unprofitable by government policy -UNSNIP- The whole link is worth reading too of course.

To: AlienTech who wrote (15003)	12/29/2001 4:48:51 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

AT, you should not call people second class humans. And how could you think sorrow and misery are good things? Good grief! Living in the rich world I guess you have no empathy with the downtrodden. I am very serious that Indian politicians and voters have voted themselves poor for 50 years and they can improve their lot dramatically and quickly by the simple expedient of voting for freedom and capitalism instead of bureaucratic repression and adherence to 19th century Marxism invented by Karl in London. They'd do better to keep Whitehall instead of Marx. India also runs a caste system which was going long before the Poms brought their own class system. India could do away with the caste system which does NOT fit with any Christian principles. How do you think I insulted billions and billions of people? You'd need to explain your reasoning, which is unclear to me, since you didn't give any explanation. I guess you think the natives were happily enjoying the wealth of the 16th century under the loving care of the Nawabs. My view of pre 20th century times is that the world was run by conquest [other than pockets of developing civilisation and democratic ideas] on tribal lines. It is silly to think that a clerk of some company can take over and rule a country of multimillions. The way the British could colonize places like New Zealand and India is that they made life a heck of a lot better for a lot of the locals. They did that by introducing technology, trade, social rules and attractive ideas that the local rulers didn't offer. It's much more attractive to work for some British company than fanning the Nabob's head courtiers on pain of death and in exchange for survival rations. Colonisation continues on those same principles today. I have lived a life of being colonized and I was attracted by the much higher pay and interesting jobs than I could get in my tribal village ruled by authoritarian collectivism and the whim of the local chieftain. So, I left town, worked for multinational companies [for example Texaco in Canada, BP in London and Belgium] and did well from it [paid less than the Chief Bwanas because I was a colonial serf, but still better than village life]. Our son works for the Japanese, having learned their language [they've got the money so to get it, you have to learn their language and adopt their cultural norms and do stuff they want done]. That beats earning a few dollars stacking supermarket shelves or writing code for some local business. He sells his services here: snowadventures.co.nz and here eigokyoshitsu.com I'm now colonizing USA, Japan, Korea and China by owning QUALCOMM, hiring the USA military and legal systems, licensing Korean and Japanese companies to use CDMA and they develop training and production facilities in China for CDMA equipment. The call me Bwana and appreciate my great technology. I'm also planning on colonizing India in the same way, but they need to change their attitude to freedom and capitalism before I can help them much. They have to WANT to be colonized. Same as centuries ago. Same as I want to be colonized now by the United Nations [after it is reconstituted]. Same as I think the United Nations and United States should colonize and Colinize [Powell] Afghanistan. Sure, Dostum might not like it and neither might a few other collectivist tribal warlords. Shoot them if they get stroppy! Then, give Afghanistan a constitution whether Dostum likes it or not [same as Japan was given whether they liked it or not], hold elections and they can become an autonomous state within United Nations federation. Hooray for Colinisation. Dostum has no more right to rule than do Tony Blair or George Bush. Conquest rules as far as Dostum is concerned. He's working on medieval principles of toughest ape on the block is chief monkey. Well, he's not the toughest ape on the block. George W and Colin Powell and Condoleezza are bigger and tougher. I'd like to see a vote in Afghanistan for how the villagers want it run rather than hand it over to Dostum who seems very much like a younger version of Saddam Hussein [does anyone really want a re-run of Iraq in such a hot-spot with oil revenue potential to fund all sorts of mayhem]. Dostum seems to be in power and if he is allowed, you watch how he expands his power until he looks like Saddam. Noblesse Oblige, Mqurice