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To: Mani1 who wrote (10541)	12/31/2001 7:03:26 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Why people should even care to educate themselves to Koran, as it is supposed to be, rather that what it is? Or Communism as it was designed to be, not what it has become?

To: Mani1 who wrote (10541)	12/31/2001 7:05:58 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Classic argument..Lenin (or Mohammed) did not mean it...If only we returned to the original pure version..Tell that to the millions killed by Communists, what a consolation....

To: Mani1 who wrote (10541)	12/31/2001 7:14:28 PM
From: alan w	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Why don't you educate yourself about Koran and its teaching, and not how someone practiced it hundreds of years ago. Translation Nadine: Don't read it, just have the revisionists explain it to you. alan w

To: Mani1 who wrote (10541)	12/31/2001 7:49:53 PM
From: alan w	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Re <<Non muslims had to pay a special tax to be tolerated>> Where does in Koran say that? Surah 9-29 alan w

To: Mani1 who wrote (10541)	12/31/2001 8:57:47 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Hi Mani, your answer lies in the Qur'an 9:29: - "Fight against from among those people of the Book who do not bring Faith in Allâh and the Last Day and whatever Allâh and HIS Rasool (Muhammad, sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) has declared prohibited (Harâm) do not make it unlawful (Harâm) and do not take (embrace) the True Deen as their Deen (Way of Life). (Fight against them) until they pay the tax for their protection (Jizyah) with their own hands and become subdued. (R) 10 " --------------------------- Zimmis Zimmis (those in custody) are non-Muslim subjects who live in Muslim countries and agree to pay the Jizya (tribute) in exchange for protection and safety, and to be subject to Islamic law. These enjoy a permanent covenant. --------------------------- The Jizya (tribute) Jizya literally means penalty. It is a protection tax levied on non-Muslims living under Islamic regimes, confirming their legal status. Mawdudi states that "the acceptance of the Jizya establishes the sanctity of their lives and property, and thereafter neither the Islamic state, nor the Muslim public have any right to violate their property, honor or liberty." Paying the Jizya is a symbol of humiliation and submission because Zimmis are not regarded as citizens of the Islamic state although they are, in most cases, natives to the country. Such an attitude alienates the Zimmis from being an essential part of the community. How can a Zimmi feel at home in his own land, among his own people, and with his own government, when he knows that the Jizya, which he pays, is a symbol of humiliation and submission? In his book The Islamic Law Pertaining to non-Muslims, Sheikh `Abdulla Mustafa Al-Muraghi indicates that the. Jizya can only be exempted from the Zimmi who becomes a Muslim or dies. The Shafi`i reiterates that the Jizya is not automatically put aside when the Zimmi embraces Islam. Exemption from the Jizya has become an incentive to encourage Zimmis to relinquish their faith and embrace Islam. Sheik Najih Ibrahim Ibn Abdulla summarizes the purpose of the Jizya. He says, quoting Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, that the Jizya is enacted: "...to spare the blood (of the Zimmis), to be a symbol of humiliation of the infidels and as an insult and punishment to them, and as the Shafi`ites indicate, the Jizya is offered in exchange for residing in an Islamic country." Thus Ibn Qayyim adds, "Since the entire religion belongs to God, it aims at humiliating ungodliness and its followers, and insulting them. Imposing the Jizya on the followers of ungodliness and oppressing them is required by God's religion. The Qur'anic text hints at this meaning when it says: `until they give the tribute by force with humiliation.' (Qur'an 9:29). What contradicts this is leaving the infidels to enjoy their might and practice their religion as they wish so that they would have power and authority." source: answering-islam.org ------------------------------