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To: teevee who wrote (15377)1/2/2002 2:56:11 PM
From: Elmer Flugum  Respond to of 281500
 
Who cares what is right or wrong when you have superior firepower and dictate what the terms of peace will be?

Olives of Aboud

israelshamir.net

"Olives of Aboud - June 16, 2001

"As the CIA-brokered cease fire went into
effect, I received an anxious call from the
village of Aboud, on the western slopes of
Samarian hills. The village was raided by the
army, and two men were shot. Today I went
there, to see the village and to feel the cease
fire.

Aboud is surrounded by the new Jewish
settlements from all sides. A brand new
Jewish road leads to the area. It forks off to
Aboud some three miles away from the
village, and there the road is blocked by
cyclopean heaps of earth. We tried our luck at
the other end, with the same result. Eventually
we found a narrow dirt track the peasants
broke in this morning, and drove in.

Aboud is one of the prettiest Palestinian
villages, strongly reminiscent of Tuscany. Its
time-mellowed stone houses grow on the
gentle hills. Vine climbs up their balconies,
leafy fig trees provide shadow to its streets.
The prosperity of this well-established village
is seen in the spaciousness of the mansions, in
the meticulously clean roads. The old men sit
in a small and shady, walled enclosure, on the
stone benches, like the aldermen of Ithaca
gathered by young Telemachus. That is the
biblical 'gate of the city', or a diwan. Kids
bring them coffee and fresh fruits. Local
people are not the refugees of Gaza and
Deheishe; here, as in a time warp, one can see
the Holy Land as it should and could be.

Three millennia old Aboud received the faith
of Christ from Christ himself, says the local
tradition, and there is the church ready to
prove it, one of the oldest on earth, built in the
days of Constantine in the 4th century, or
maybe even older, as some archaeologists
claim. The church is a dainty thing, carefully
restored and well taken care of. The
Byzantine capitals of its columns bear the
image of cross and palm branches. They
recently discovered a plaque in old Aramaic
script immured in the southern wall of the
church.

Aboud has more than one church: there is a
Catholic, a Greek Orthodox and an
American-built Church of God. There is also a
new mosque, as Christians and Muslims of the
Holy Land live together in great harmony. On
December 17th all of them, the Muslims and
the Christians, go to venerate the village
patron saint, St Barbara. She was a local girl
who fell in love with a young Christian and
was baptized. It happened in the rough days
of Roman emperor Diocletian, and she was
martyred in the persecutions. The ruins of the
oldest Byzantine church of St Barbara are still
seen on a hill a mile away from the village. At
the foothill, there is her burial cave, and there
the peasants lit their candles and ask their
wishes to be fulfilled.

It is a good place to understand the complete
lunacy of the prevailing Jewish view of
Palestine as of the 'land without people'
sparsely inhabited by the Arab nomad
latecomers. Archaeologists have proven that
this village was never destroyed or abandoned
since the time immemorial, and our eyes agree
with it. Age-old olive trees cover the hills,
confirming the deep roots of Aboud and
providing it with olive oil, its main staple food
and source of livelihood.

Just outside a village, there were two giant
American-built Caterpillar bulldozers slowly
devouring the olive trees. They were huge,
covered from every side by armour plates.
They appeared impregnable, like moving
fortresses. They towered above the landscape
as the mechanical monsters of Evil Empire
attacking Ewocks in the Star Wars.

The peasants stood on the heaps of earth
blocking the entrance to the village and looked
at the machines destroying their livelihood.
They could not walk towards them, as they
were not allowed to leave their village, their
prison. There was a tent, and a few soldiers
with a machinegun on the hill above the
entrance, and they were there to keep the
people in. Last night, on Sabbath eve, they
opened fire on the villagers who ventured out,
and wounded two men. The rest run back in
for safety. Then the army went in, in their
jeeps, driving through the village, met by
stones of the kids. The Jewish settlers and
soldiers sprayed windows and roofs with their
bullets and drove away, apparently feeling
their Shabbat duty fulfilled.

I was allowed to cross the invisible line, as it
was for the Palestinians only. There was an
Israeli officer in a jeep, a wide American
Hummer, who oversaw the devastation. Why
do you do it, I asked, don't you know there is
the cease fire? Say it to Arik (Sharon), he
replied, we are just following orders. But he,
and the other soldiers, and the bulldozer
drivers were not despondent about these
orders. These age-old trees meant nothing to
them, as the village and two millennia old
Church, and the people meant nothing to
them. Just something to be devoured and
destroyed.

Palestine never was the deserted land the first
Zionists claimed they found at their arrival. But
it will become one, unless we stop these
machines.
"



To: teevee who wrote (15377)1/2/2002 4:06:58 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 281500
 
Teevee.. maybe if you had taken the time to digest that article, you'd see that it was more of an indictment against the political infrastructure of the Islamic world, and not so much directed against Muslims in general.

The point being made is that the Arab world has lagged drastically behind the west on an economic, political, and social level.

This is not so much the fault of the average Arab, but of the authoritarian and corrupt leadership. Even OBL acknowledges that, and has used it as his primary leverage in promoting Islamic fundamentalism as the solution.

But we in the West know how flawed that solution would be, and so do many Muslims. Fundamentalist Islam CANNOT compete against the West anymore than could communism. Thus, the only way for the extremists to win is to destroy the West and subjugate their fellow muslims into submission.

This is a civil war within Islam. Modernist versus Extremist. It's Islam's equivalent of the reformation, which has been long overdue.

I don't believe Arabs are sub-humans and I certainly don't perceive the author's intent as claiming any such foolishness. People are merely products of their education (or lack thereof) and economic poverty. They are only as "sub-human" as their fanatical disregard for human life presents them as being towards others who value life at a higher level. People who would never even contemplate justifying the deliberate killing of 3,000 innocent civilians, and the attempted murder of 40,000 more (who managed to escape in time or who fortunately showed up late for work).

Hawk



To: teevee who wrote (15377)1/2/2002 4:11:56 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
teevee,
Get a grip. Israel hasn't proposed any final solutions lately. On the other hand, Pres. Khamenei of Iran recently proposed, quite seriously, that Israel should be nuked. If Israel is acting paranoid, it's because it has real enemies.

I suggest you take a good look at the vicious and unrestrained hatred that is being spewed by the Muslim world at both Israel and the US before you accuse the West of "dehumanizing" anybody. Or does your own ideology prevent you from ever critically examining the behavior of the "oppressed"?

That article was not about dehumanizing Arabs -- it was about appreciating what is best about the West and how we got to be stronger than the Muslim world. Nor are these advantages limited to Europe and the Americas; didn't you see Hong Kong and South Korea metioned as having taken advantage of them? The Arabs could do so too if they chose. So far only tiny Bahrain has done so. The rest have painted themselves into a corner, and are busy blaming the rest of the world for their troubles.