To: Bill Fischofer who wrote (9168 ) 1/3/2002 4:53:02 PM From: Frederick Smart Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931 From a conditionally egoic perspective.... >>Actually, the mind/ego is the seat of rationality. One has to be "out of one's mind" to experience God. Thus a better phrasing might be that all egos are "totally, completely, and utterly SANE" and it is precisely that sanity which limits them.>> ...what you say makes perfect sense. And everything that of/by/for/with/in EGO HAS to be totally and completely antithetical to that which is truth, light, Life and Love. For EGO to exist at all the belief in these claims of limits to energy is at the core/root. From the egos perspective these claims appear perfectly "sane", rational and logical. And this is how they HAVE to "appear" for these illusions to ever gain any ground within the reality of the divine self to begin with. So we are all free to chose to receive and understand ourselves based on the belief of there being limits and conditions to reality. Thus, who we are becomes conditional and relative to who others are NOT. Thus, the entire basis of the universe's unconditionally FREE and perfect order gets perverted/inverted by this matrix of THE LIE which factors, labels, slices and dices energy, light and Love in an attempt to claim, "get" and control, etc. There cannot be any other way of understanding this. To each side the other side must, by definition, be totally irrationally and illogically insane. The only difference is that on the ZERO/NO claim side of the fence there's nothing to blame or shame as a result. And the greatest thing to honor an another individual is the very essence of life itself which is FREEDOM to be, FREEDOM to chose, FREEDOM to understand, etc. Those that claim, blame and shame want to deny this FREEDOM. Those that have nothing to claim, blame and shame want to elevate this FREEDOM to the paramount, highest position of truth behind the ultimate reality of the self and spirit. 119293!!