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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (153695)1/3/2002 8:37:12 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
"The heinousness of his crimes tends to make him look bigger, more intelligent, and more dangerous than he actually is, in my opinion."

Time and place are more important. If Osama was preaching his points in the time of Mahatma, then he would have a lot less influence.

But, then is then, and now is now, as Jerry Brown said in a different context. The point is we are talking about the 22st century and not the 21rst. Terrorism is the big threat, not some third world country. A citizen of any developed country can do as much damage of any other country is a fact of life. This is the lesson we must learn. As technology progresses, either we must limit the power that individuals wield, or we must accept, and police, what people can do. this is the conundrum that we face...



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (153695)1/4/2002 9:32:51 AM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
>On the one hand, I have to disagree. The urgency is indeed there. Osama bin Laden and/or his henchmen will try again and continue trying as long as they're alive and able to find safe haven. America can't afford to take its time.

While I agree that OBL and Al Qaida will keep trying to attack the West, I seriously question whether they're in such a state to pull off another 9/11-type scenario. Western security (see: Richard Reid, the shoe-bomber) has improved dramatically since then, and Al-Qaida is really on the run. The U.S. has detained many, and has been really "cleaning house" (see: Zacharias Mussauoi, nearly 1000 other detainees). I have to say that I'm not particularly worried, we just can't allow Al-Qaida to regroup and once we're done in Afghanistan we have to continue to take out terrorist groups (particularly Islamic ones, as those are the ones whose members would rather be dead than alive, making them more dangerous).

In the cases of the Cold War and WWII, there actually was a danger of a foreign power taking over the world. It's different now. Sure, it sucks to have a bit of a cloud of fear hanging over us (I'm not scared :) ) but we shouldn't be in a state of panic by any means. I know I would've been wetting myself during the Cuban Missile Crisis, but this doesn't faze me. The potential for an attack such as the WTC attack has existed in passing for years, whether the average person on the streets knew it or not. We're doing what needs to be done now.

>On the other hand, I think it's good to exercise discretion in this case. To do otherwise would elevate OBL to the level of 20th century monsters like Hitler or Stalin. The heinousness of his crimes tends to make him look bigger, more intelligent, and more dangerous than he actually is, in my opinion.

Yup.

-Z