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To: stribe30 who wrote (67054)	1/3/2002 8:50:06 PM
From: Nutty Buddy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

AMD is back on my Top Power Volume performance chart after a three week hiatus . #12 out of 250: home.mindspring.com The directing page with explanation and more charts: home.mindspring.com Home page: home.mindspring.com Buddy

To: stribe30 who wrote (67054)	1/4/2002 12:07:10 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Scot, "The Success of AMD's New Nomenclature" I always liked the PR rating. AMD had no choice. I did say they were late with it. They waited until the Palomino was way late. BTW, I saved this for you. Turns out that when AMD caught up in SPEC, Intel and the Benchmarkers like Anand suddenly forgot about it. Clearly, Intel WAS intimidating the hardware sites to use select benchmarks to make the P4 look good. I like Anand, but he was used like a Pawn I think... ---------------- To:Jim McMannis who wrote (16756) From: stribe30 Thursday, Nov 2, 2000 5:19 AM View Replies (4) \| Respond to of 67072 To Jim; ANAND RESPONDS TO YOUR POST ABOUT SPEC SCORES Pardon the Caps.. just a way to bring attention to the message (I havent got these SI codes figured out on how to bolden or colour text on here). Anyhow.. a forwarded copy of an email sent to me from Anand (who didnt mind if this was posted publicly btw - at least.. I said his response would probably get posted and he had no objection to it) ------- "Thanks for the email. I've already seen SPEC benchmarks for the Pentium 4, and yes it does very well, <<but does that mean that I should ditch the benchmark?>> I don't think so. I received overwhelming request to expand our benchmark suite to include more than just what we had been doing, and thus I included Linpack and SPEC CPU2000 so I could provide better analysis. This is the equivalent of saying that I shouldn't include SPECviewperf numbers because the Athlon dominates in many cases. When the Pentium 4 arrives you'll see an even more in-depth analysis than what you saw in the DDR review. I will be fair as I have been in the past and take a look at why the platforms/processors are performing the way they do. Remember that there's also much more to SPEC than just FP when it comes to processors, SPECint2000 is another area I will be focusing on, and we already know that the Pentium 4 isn't so hot there. In the end the addition of SPEC numbers is better for the reviews as a whole, I was sick of just spitting out a bunch of benchmarks without actually getting any information from them. With SPEC, I can show where these numbers are coming from and illustrate future performance trends, etc... If all I gave was the final SPEC number with no analysis, then yes, I can see the poster's point, however that's not going to be the case. The point is to provide the reader with as much information as possible so that he/she can make a very educated decision, that's what I'm attempting to do here and that's what I've always pushed to do in the past. Thanks again for your email. The way I see it is this, when a reader comes to AnandTech they are essentially putting their money in my hands. Whether it be $50, $100 or $1000, they are trusting me with that and I owe it to them to provide them with the best, most impartial recommendation I can come up with. That has been my philosophy from day one and it will always continue to be so. Take care, Anand Anand Lal Shimpi Editor in Chief & CEO, AnandTech, Inc. anandtech.com ==== Funny how Anand ditched the SPEC benchmark, huh? Jim