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To: maceng2 who wrote (15471)	1/3/2002 9:40:56 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

<Honest, I do not see any difference in "IQ" amongst the races. OK, the highest percentage of super high IQ guys (statisticaly speaking) are jewish.> Well, the Bell Curve book does prove you wrong. Hordes of tests have been done sufficient to prove differences. However, some people in the lower standard deviations of the higher IQ races, who are much less intelligent than the highest standard deviation in the less intelligent races, are unable to understand what the results mean. They mistakenly think it means they are smarter than all or most members of the less intelligent race. Which means one should not pick one's friends or employees by 'race'. This of course begs the question of the definition of 'race', which of course can only be defined in a very arbitrary way, unsuitable for any legislative purposes. 'Human race' is still able to be defined fairly accurately, [there are perhaps a few zygotic DNA combinations which make even that definition out of date]. The 'human race' definition might fail as CDNA [genes by menu] becomes part of human reproduction. It amuses me that people are happy to acknowledge genetic variations in 'races' as proven by their willingness to separate people into races. By making that separation, based on DNA, they are acknowledging that the groups have lived separately for so long that DNA drift has made group differences sufficiently large to be observable sufficiently to create the groups. The funny thing is that they then want to deny that other group DNA differences exist. Since all DNA involves group drift, it is absurd to select some range of DNA, define people as being in that group, then insisting that other DNA in that group has the same average content as other groups, which have been defined as being different. Since IQ is a function of DNA [some people still are unaware than DNA has a dominant effect on IQ - yet they seem to accept that they can't educate their family dog to get into Mensa], it's obvious that there will be group drift in IQ just as there is in any other DNA variable. That's just how DNA drift works. If you stand on a train platform in Japan or Italy, you see a sea of short people with dark hair. If you go to Holland, the average is tall. If you go to Sweden, they are blond. IQ is highly-valued, which is why people are sensitive about the issue. But it's just a small portion of what makes a human's DNA chain. High IQ with a rotten immune system is no fun at all [well, it might be fun, but not for long]. Stephen Hawking would perhaps trade 10 points for functioning limbs. Though maybe not. There's more to life than having to carry yourself around. Cystic fibrosis in a gifted child is a nightmare and I think parents would prefer a 'normal' child. I think the child would too. People are all different. Every single one, including clones with different experiences in their lives. There's nothing wrong with that. There's no need to pretend that all groups are the same in all respects. We aren't. It doesn't matter. We are individual people. It's collectivism and state control, repression of individuals and state support for particular groups which create the mayhem. Gangsterism and dominance hierarchies have always been the norm since the age of humans as chimps [or Lucy for the pedants]. To the extent we can ditch that atavistic view of other people, we will do better. I'm an atheist, but from rumour, Jesus Christ took a universal approach to humans and the old gangsterism and alpha male and courtiers approach was considered out of date. We are still working on it. He had the right idea [I suspect he included homosexual people in that Hawk]. Mqurice