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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Greg or e who wrote (9182)1/4/2002 7:28:18 AM
From: Frederick Smart  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
Unity In Diversity.....

>>The problem posed by unity and diversity is one that many have wrestled with. You seem to have an answer to the unity, but are weak in the diversity department.>>

Follow the numbers Greg.

All numbers proceed from ONE (1) and return to ONE (1). And all prime numbers are divisible by only themselves and ONE (1) so simple, perfect essence they are "ONE" - in unity - with ONE (1).

ONE and PRIME are like the DNA of His creation. And you can not only view and these "prime patterns", but you can confirm, compare and weigh them mathematically using simple tools that involve simple equations.

>>Have you considered the simple beauty of an eternal uncreated, creator God, who is ONE in essence, yet THREE in Persons? Not only does this give an adequate explanation for the unity and diversity of the universe, but it also provides a reasonable ground for personality and mind.>>

After Constantine consolidated the Christian world for the first time in history, he ordered all the Christian "leaders" to finally to figure out and get it right so that there could be some form or semblence of unity in their understanding of truth.

Thus, the council of Nicene was organized. Emanuel Swedenborg goes into exhausting detail how these leaders actually succeeded in going "over the top" and ended up creating the core essence of the fallen Christian Religion that has characterized this Fourth Era that ended on April 28, 1979.

They essentially split God up into three parts: 1) Father; 2) Son and 3) Holy Spirit. And I'm not saying these folks were carrying on some nefariously evil plot to overthrow Christianity. Rather, it was an attempt to square the idea of an earthly Christ Jesus with an infinite God.

What ended up happening is that Christ Jesus not only remained nailed to the cross, but mankind in general and the Christian Church in particular assumed the role of Christ here on this earth, for after all, he was just another "son of God" just like the rest of "us."

And this eventually unleashed into the world this flying serpent which is a combination of the sinful fallen individual and a faith without works, thus a complete falling away of the connection between the need for repentence which then creates the opening for God our Father to enter in and do His world that begins the process of reformation which leads to regeneration.

In scientific terminology, this "regeneration" is essentially a reordering of the polarity and flow of energy, light, truth and Love between and among the mind, body and soul of each individual. It's the turning OFF the Black Hole the the birth of a New Spiritual Star which is His Light, Energy and Love which is the support and essence behind all Life.

But this "flying serpent" was already out of the box from the results of the Council of Nicene. The fallen away, religious claim, blame, shame Babylon cycle started right then and there. And even Martin Luther's faith ONLY reformation has failed to break this evil fusion of religious, political and enomic Wizard of Oz game of Three Card Monte.

Claim, blame and shame. Claim, blame and shame.

And it all can be traced to when they split God up into THREE PARTS.

Trying to receive worship three of anything as if they are ONE turns our natural conditional human understanding into a blended milkshake. I know this is not what was intended and I'm not judging those who go to church as evil. But what I'm saying is that God, Jesus and the Holy spirit naturally get put on three different pedestals which are somewhere, out there, far, near, above, below and around us in this universe.

Thus, much of what passes for "worship" in the religious world is this concept of "separation from God" and all the natural results from this separation - the sinful man, fallen mankind and this perverse idea that we need to just get used to judging, factoring, slicing, dicing, definining and labelling the existence of evil and all of it's madness in this world.

So what passes for "religion" is really nothing more and nothing less than slaving inside and worshipping The Black Hole which proceeds from and is maintained by this separation from God our Father.

And the masters and controllers of these Black Holes occupy and own all these religious, coporate and political Wizard of Oz Castles through which they "claim" to "create" and manage but, truthfully speaking, only result in the continued consolidation of the same ONE Black Hole model which feeds and fuels all these illusions of divisions, separations, limits and competition which naturally lead to more blame and shame which inevitable leads to more hate, anger and WAR.

Jesus Christ IS God.

And if you don't want to put a label on God then that's fine, too. If you want to call Him whatever, that's fine, too. For FREEDOM is the passport we all have to this ONE understanding behind this ONE truth. And our ONE Lord God in Heaven Jesus Christ permits evil so that we can evetually understand that His Will is the only source of FREEDOM, the only source of Light, the only source of Love which is the only source of Life itself.

The great final synthesis is afoot right now all over this world. And our Father in Heaven's perfect Will will eventually be done here on this earth just as it is in Heaven. This process has been underway for thousands of years.

>> Pantheism, or paneverythingism as it is more aptly called, (little p, no Theo) gives no reason to expect anything other than unity. If the universe started with OM, it should have stayed that way, and it would certainly not have anything even remotely resembling "the essence of His purpose">>

This is part of the great diversity we are speaking of. Tolerance and understanding are the pathways to peace so that mankind will eventually understand that all these drops of water inevitably flow into Rivers which empty into ONE ocean, etc. The design of Nature itself is like reading Scripture. Working out in the Big Sky country of Montana along highway 89 in the Shields River valley on my grandfather's ranch - between the Crazy Mountains in the east, the Bridger Mountains west and the Absarokees to the south - is where I learned the core essence of the energy behind God our Father in Heaven.

This world is entering a period of a Great Lasting Peace which will surprise all those who slave away in the Old Wizard of Oz Castles of claim, blame, shame and fear.

For we are leaving these Castles. And it's the energy, light and Love of our ONE Lord God in Heaven Jesus Christ that is behind this great final synthesis of this great final ONE truth.

119293!!



To: Greg or e who wrote (9182)1/4/2002 9:25:53 AM
From: Bill Fischofer  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 28931
 
To observe is not to need. But we also need to be clear on what it is we mean by "God". It is true it is difficult to reconcile these concepts with the traditional patronymic "Father figure" hurling creative and destructive thunderbolts from a celestial throne before whom all must kneel. This is the God of Fear personified. Here are some selections from CWG on this subject:

"If you believe that God is some omnipotent being who hears all prayers, says "yes" to some, "no" to others, and "maybe, but now now" to the rest, you are mistaken. By what rule of thumb would God decide?

If you believe that God is the creator and decider of all things in your life, you are mistaken.

God is the observer, not the creator. And God stands ready to assist you in living your life, but not in the way you might expect.

It is not God's function to create, or uncreate, the circumstances or conditions of your life. God created you, in the image and likeness of God. You have created the rest, through the power God has given you. God created the process of life and life itself as you know it. Yet God gave you free choice, to do with life as you will.

In this sense, your will for you is God's will for you.

You are living your life the way you are living your life, and I have no preference in the matter.

This is the grand illusion in which you have engaged: that God cares one way or the other what you do.

I do not care what you do, and that is hard for you to hear. ...

Yet God, in a sense, does not even care about the outcome. Not the ultimate outcome. This is because the ultimate outcome is assured.

And this is the second great illusion of man: that the outcome of life is in doubt.

It is this doubt about ultimate outcome that has created your greatest enemy, which is fear. For if you doubt outcome, then you must doubt Creator--you must doubt God. And if you doubt God you must live in fear and guilt all your life.

If you doubt God's intentions--and God's ability to produce this ultimate result--then how can you ever relax? How can you ever truly find peace?

Yet God as full power to match intentions with results. You cannot and will not belive in this (even though you claim that God is all-powerful), and so you have to create in your imagination a power equal to God, in order that you may find a way for God's will to be thwarted. And so you have created in your mythology the being you call "devil". You have even imagined a God as war with this being (thinking that God solves problems the way you do). Finally, you have actually imagined that God could lose this war.

All this violates everything you say you know about God, but this doesn't matter. You live your illusion and thus feel your fear, all out of your decision to doubt God.

But what if you made a new decision? What would be the result?

I tell you this: you would live as the Buddha did. As Jesus did. As did every saint you have ever idolized."

(Quoted from CWG Book 1, pp. 13-15)