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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (15511)1/4/2002 7:02:54 AM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
military threats are lower than at any time. Osama-style international criminals are not really a threat compared with historic threats.

Maurice,
the kinds of weapons being used or available negates your point of view...

talk to me after you have an airliner crash into your military headquarters in wellington and two more take out the two biggest buildings in Auckland.

or after your country is nuked...and it is getting close to you...Australia recently thwarted an attack on a nuclear reactor.

your SIS is having some fun at home too...here is a recent quote...
Miss Clark agreed that it was of concern that people in New Zealand had been linked to nuclear weapon development and terrorism.
uw



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (15511)1/4/2002 3:28:47 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Anyway, the style of conflict these days doesn't lend itself to conscripts taking part. Technology, techniques, knowledge and experience are what it's all about.

Hmmm... methinks you should review your position.

Afterall, look what a bunch of relatively illiterate, and culturally unsophisticated extremists were able to achieve with a couple of jet-liners? They spend a couple of years, spend a couple of hundred thousand dollars in training and logistical support, and voila!! They cause well over $40 Billion in physical damage, as well as trillions in economic damage. Only 8 of them were actually trained in how to fly the planes. The rest were just "hired muscle" tasked with keeping the passengers in check.

And what could they do were they to get their hands on biological weapons? What if some of these death-seeking conscripts are deliberately injected with a highly contagious virus, and then sent to roam around heavily populated cities to cough and sneeze on everyone?

The Israelis are reporting toxic substances being used in some of those suicide bombings. It doesn't take much sophistication for a relatively few "conscripts" to achieve major carnage by merely being willing to die for their cause.

So I'm with Unclewest on this one (little surprise).. "Military threats" can be categorized as anything that threatens the physical, economic and political stability of your nation. It should NOT be relegated to merely something that threatens your army.

Any military expert knows that its the enemy you can't see, which is the one which can be most destructive, if only to our own political freedoms and sense of well-being and confidence.

Hawk