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To: Paul Shread who wrote (27026)1/4/2002 2:22:49 PM
From: Carolyn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52237
 
Go buy a Linksys router; you can connect up to 3 computers that way using one IP.



To: Paul Shread who wrote (27026)1/4/2002 11:37:03 PM
From: Lee Lichterman III  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52237
 
*OT* Yep, Easiest way is to get a router.

If you really really don't want to spend any more money, you can share via a hub but you will have to hook up to your cable modem via USB instead of Ethernet which I have heard doesn't work as well but is possible. That will free up your LAN card so you can hook your machines into the hub. From there, you will have to make one of your machines the "host" that will run your connection to the net like a server then have your other machine go through that computer to gain access to the net. This is known as an ICN. I ran this configuration for my old 56K hookup but went the Router way once I got cable.

Routers are much more effecient than hubs and give you much more control however. It is too long to explain here but hubs are constantly broadcasting which produce network collisions and slow down communication. Routers actually address each computer specifically and keep things moving quickly among other advantages.

Linksys and Netgear are the best Routers for home use. You can go cheap but you might be better off spending a little more to get one that has firewall software built in unless you know how to program a script yourself and then even then you have to ensure the router you buy will let you have access to writing your own scripts which is rare in the cheap models. I picked up a CSCO router on Ebay when they were going cheap but I only use it for practice in the CSCO certification course I am taking. It is over kill for home use.

I love my router but it is spendy. I am running a Netgear RO318 which cost me about $180 but it has built in Firewall, filters, anti hacking tracer log files and is fully programable so I can make it do all kinds of things. Out of the box, it will e-mail me when I am getting probed, filters content of my choosing and tracks everywhere anyone goes so I can keep an eye on things. It comes pre-programmed to spoof an IP ( Pretending like it is a computer so Cable service providers can't tell it is a router sharing multiple hookups etc. in case you aren't supposed to have more than one hookup) It also has a built in switch that runs 7 computers so I don't have to hook up any additional hubs, switches or routers for my 5 machines.

There are a few cheaper models that also have filters and firewalls but you are still going to pay close to 100 bucks. Note that the last number in a netgear model usually stands for how many lines you can run off of it so the higher that number, the more computers you can run. Just something to keep in mind if you have kids that will be hooking in someday. I bought the 7 line switch so that my wife, my 3 kids and then my multiple setup could all fit without my having to upgrade later. If I outgrow this, I will need to get a life!!! -g-

Let me know if you need any help or have more questions.

EDIT - I just found my router on line at Pricewatch for $148

Before I saw mine, I was going to get the RO314 after much research which will hook up 4 computers. This is top line for home use and I was sold on it but then stumbled by accident upon my model and decided I wanted to be able to hook up all my machines directly and only got it since I had more than 4 computers.

The RO314 on Pricewatch is $159 at a couple different spots.

Good Luck,

Lee



To: Paul Shread who wrote (27026)1/5/2002 12:19:01 AM
From: Lee Lichterman III  Respond to of 52237
 
*OT* My God SI is slow tonight. I ran out of edit time after reading your message again and realizing it sounds like you might have everything alreay hooked up and all you need is set up answers.

If you already have your main machine on line and have your computers hooked together into a hub. It depends on what operating system you are using.

Generally and assuming you are on a MSFT system. Just go to network neighborhood and make sure under properties you have Client for MSFT networks, TCP/IP, and file and printer sharing. IN Win98 you will also see the LAN card but you won't in Win2K as it has it's own window up top.

You cable service is going to probably assign you an IP for your main machine so this will be tough. If you can get a "static" IP address, it is much easier. Basically, you want your second machine to have the same first 3 positions of IP address as your main machine but then have a different last number. For example, if you IP address is 192.168.0.2 on your main machine, then you want your second machine to be 192.168.0.3 or 4 or 5 etc. 192.168.0.1 is probably going to be the Modem so stay away from the low numbers.

If you are running Win 98, you will have to assign the network a name such as "Paul" or anything else you want and it will have to be loaded on all machines on the network so they can see each other. This will get loaded under "Domain"

Then each computer will have to have a unique name that is different on each machine. It again can be anything you want and can even be closely named such as Paul1 and Paul2 etc. DNS has to be enabled.

If you are on a Window 2K machine, this stuff is all done by right clicking on "My computer" instead and then going to the "Network Identification" tab and "Properties" button. Same principle applies as to assigning a network name that is the same for all computers but assigning a different name for each computer.

The main problem you are going to have is when the Cable Modem server changes you IP address. I don't know how you have your cables strung. You MIGHT be able to get away with having dual IP addresses one for your cable hookup and then having your main machine act as it's own DHCP server for LAN use only. if so, you can then just blow off assigning IP address and have the main machine run itself as an ICN host and then tell your other machines to "Obtain IP address automatically". This will ikely only be possible if you are Win2K or XP and even then it is all dependent on your cable service and how it is configured. Tough to know without seeing it first hand.

You will know when you get it right as you will see the other machines under network neighborhood once everything is set up right. ( This assumes you aren't running Zone Alarm firewall software on your machines otherwise your machines will be invisable until you specifically "search for computer" and enter the name you gave one of them, have Zone Alarm ask permission for access and you tell it yes).

Once you get your network up and running, then internet access is easy. On your second machine, just click on tools, internet options, click the connection tab and tell it to "Automatically detect settings" and give it a try. if that doesn't work or you had to manually assign IP addresses then you just click on "Use Proxy Server" and enter the IP address of your main machine that acts as the host.

This is really hard to write without being able to see exactly what you have, how it is set up and how the cable modem is controlling your addressing. Hopefully this will get you close enought at you will know what you are facing and what route you are going to have to go at it.

Good Luck,

Lee