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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: James Calladine who wrote (9253)1/5/2002 3:17:05 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
"I would say, personally, that the existence of God can be DEMONSTRATED, experientially, in the realm of feeling...."

Unfortunately that existence can only be demonstrated to people who already think like you do, or who are inclined to do so. Such "demonstrations" in my family, were called preaching to the choir.



To: James Calladine who wrote (9253)1/5/2002 3:23:33 PM
From: Bill Fischofer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
Actually all mathematical proofs are exercises in tautology. The conclusions are embedded in the premises and the proof simply shows how that is. One of the classical problems in mathematical philosophy is how one gets from the abstract world of mathematics to the "real world" of the physical. Philosophers worry about this problem but most scientists and engineers are more practical folks. If it works, they'll use the tool.

The selection of premises and axioms is of paramount importance in any system of reasoning. The key breakthrough which is necessary to unify science and spirit is the acceptance of consciousness as a foundational axiom.