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To: substancep who wrote (49701)1/5/2002 5:11:42 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris  Respond to of 54805
 
Bryan,

I have a similar situation in my 401(k) and
it is my belief - though possibly mistaken -
that it is worthwhile to manage the account anyway.

Therefore I do quite a lot of investigation
into mutuals allowed there and change allocations
between sectors and asset classes as needed.
I don't know the breadth of your 401(k), so
I don't know if it is applicable to you.

I still believe that saying "I am G&K outside 401(k)"
is a cop-out. The real meaning of it is that you do
not believe that your G&Ks would beat the
S&P500 with tax benefits and employer matches in
401(k). If you believed otherwise, you would contribute
nothing to 401(k) and would invest the money into G&Ks.

Jurgis - not that I blame you



To: substancep who wrote (49701)1/6/2002 10:23:02 AM
From: alanrs  Respond to of 54805
 
I have the same problem, which is why 40% of my assets are in an investment contract. While I can move that money around, the choices are limited. The way I look at it, that money is like a big rock I can always count on which allows me to be much more aggressive in other areas.
This year I've ended up with an additional 20% in cash that was a rental property. I am using that money to anchor an options strategy, although the stocks involved are the same old familiar names I always own-that's what I spend time following after all. This money is very discretionary and might go in the market or into a vacation property or who knows what else in the future.
The remaining 40% (approx) is invested in almost exactly the same tech stocks as the previous year. I would actually feel better just giving the % of those with the caveat that I have sufficient assets in other things to allow me a riskier (?) investment approach. Most of the companies I own would be very familiar to everyone here.



To: substancep who wrote (49701)1/6/2002 4:39:17 PM
From: diver913  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 54805
 
RE. Assumption about your employer and 401k

Bryan,

Please don't assume that your employer feels you aren't "worthy of the responsibility" to select individual stocks for your 401k. There's more to this decision than meets the eye.

Our small company has offered a 401k plan for our employees for over 6 years, through T. Rowe Price. As one of the owners, I was eager to offer the opportunity for employees (and me!) to buy individual stocks. I detest the fees charged by actively-managed mutual funds, and I feel restricted with an index fund.

But as one of the people who's held accountable for ensuring people are fully informed and educated, I backed off my initial enthusiasm after spending hours researching our options. Our conclusion: Too much risk. As owners, we're liable for employees' education about potential stock purchases. That means we'd have had to cover ourselves by paying a financial consultant to give advice, since none of us is a "certified" expert. The costs and risks were higher than we were willing to pay. This is just an overview of our rationale - don't want to take up too much space with this topic, but it's near and dear to my heart.

I don't know what circumstances are at work in your company, but I know it wasn't a matter of not trusting our employees in our case, and it may not be in yours. It's worth asking your management to find out the reason for their current structure.

Meredith