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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (153966)	1/6/2002 2:37:16 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re:" the .18u Athlon is currently shipping at 1.67Ghz. 405 on top of that is 2.338 Ghz " AMD QuantiMath at work? 1.67 GHz + 405 MHz = 2.075 GHz Maybe just AMD GigaEnvy at work.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (153966)	1/6/2002 5:24:37 AM
From: wanna_bmw	Respond to of 186894

Jim, Re: "Your math seems to be good if the PR rating scales linearly." Actually, I think Constantine was hoping for 2.8GHz in Q4 2002, rather than modelhertz. Of course, I think you are probably right. A model 2800+ Athlon will reign in at 2.2GHz, which is where I predict the Athlon will be at by the end of the year. The only problem with AMD is that modelhertz are scaling 33% faster than gigahertz, and I don't think the Athlon is getting 33% better scalability than the Pentium 4. Rather, benchmarks seem to show that the Athlon and Pentium 4 scale equally well with megahertz (in other words, whatever improvement a Pentium 4 gets with 10% extra frequency is how much an Athlon gets with 10% extra frequency - not model numbers). In 2002, the Athlon will only be able to meet the speed of the Pentium 4 in terms of model numbers, while in performance the Pentium 4 will be catching up at a rate of 33%. wbmw