To: freeus who wrote (5358 ) 1/7/2002 12:31:07 AM From: D.B. Cooper Respond to of 13815 freeus Maybe the reason that you are being stopped out of a stock all the time is that you are not buying at the right time. Lots of different times to buy a stock and for different reasons. Sometimes you trade intra day at the turn times. sometimes swing trades which can vary from a few hours to weeks. If you want to be a little safer try using a setting called the aroon. You can find it at stockcharts.com from their site Aroon Developed by Tushar Chande in 1995, the Aroon is an indicator system that can be used to determine whether a stock is trending or not and how strong the trend is. "Aroon" means "Dawn's Early Light" in Sanskrit and Chande choose that name for this indicator since it is designed to reveal the beginning of a new trend. The Aroon indicator consists of two lines, Aroon(up) and Aroon(down). The Aroon Oscillator is a single line that is defined as the difference between Aroon(up) and Aroon(down). All three take a single parameter which is the number of time periods to use in the calculation. Since Aroon(up) and Aroon(down) both oscillate between 0 and +100, the Aroon Oscillator ranges from -100 to +100 with zero serving as the crossover line. Aroon(up) for a given time period is calculated by determining how much time (on a percentage basis) elapsed between the start of the time period and the point at which the highest closing price during that time period occurred. When the stock is setting new highs for the time period, Aroon(up) will be 100. If the stock has moved lower every day during the time period, Aroon(up) will be zero. Aroon(down) is calculated in just the opposite manner, looking for new lows instead of new highs. Technically, the formula for Aroon(up) is [ (# of periods) - (# of periods since highest close during that time) ] / (# of periods) x 100. The formula for Aroon(down) is [ (# of periods) - (# of periods since lowest close during that time) ] / (# of periods) x 100. For example, consider plotting a 10-period Aroon(up) line on a daily chart. If the highest closing price for the past ten days occured 6 days ago (4 days since the start of the time period), Aroon(up) for today would be equal to ((10-6)/10) x 100 = 40. If the lowest close in that same period happened yesterday (i.e. on day 9), Aroon(down) for today would be 90. Interpretation Guidelines: Chande states that when Aroon(up) and Aroon(down) are moving lower in close proximity, it signals a consolidation phase is under way and no strong trend is evident. When Aroon(up) dips below 50, it indicates that the current trend has lost its upwards momentum. Similarly, when Aroon(down) dips below 50, the current downtrend has lost its momentum. Values above 70 indicate a strong trend in the same direction as the Aroon (up or down) is under way. Values below 30 indicate that a strong trend in the opposite direction is underway. The Aroon Oscillator signals an upward trend is underway when it is above zero and a downward trend is underway when it falls below zero. The farther away the oscillator is from the zero line, the stronger the trend.stockcharts.com You will not catch the exact bottom but SHOULD a little safe for you. If used with other indicators this might help.IMHO However using charts is sometimes like driving a car looking in the rear view mirror. Just trying to help. Good Luck